Comments on: A Must Read: “Global Temperature Change,” by James Hansen et al. http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:32:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Ben http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-52 Ben Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:59:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-52 It would be good to read up on both sides of an argument before blindly following this junk. http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm It would be good to read up on both sides of an argument before blindly following this junk.

http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-53 Joe Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:48:34 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-53 I confess that I am wedded to the scientific "side" of this "argument." Climate Progress will address the anti-scientific side from time to time, but in this case some of the top climate scientist in the country have directly done so in the posted article. A 9-year old article posted on a web site whose origins lie in the tobacco industry disinformation campaign, hardly deserves much weight against a major article by leading climate scientists in a leading peer-reviewed journal. I confess that I am wedded to the scientific “side” of this “argument.” Climate Progress will address the anti-scientific side from time to time, but in this case some of the top climate scientist in the country have directly done so in the posted article.

A 9-year old article posted on a web site whose origins lie in the tobacco industry disinformation campaign, hardly deserves much weight against a major article by leading climate scientists in a leading peer-reviewed journal.

]]> By: Fergus Brown http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-56 Fergus Brown Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:13:58 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-56 On Climate Science, Roger Pielke Sr. asks why Prof. Hansen has chosen to use SAT as a metric rather than ocean heat content, a metric he seems to have found acceptable last year. I'd love to be able to answer him, but I don't know; can you enlighten me? On Climate Science, Roger Pielke Sr. asks why Prof. Hansen has chosen to use SAT as a metric rather than ocean heat content, a metric he seems to have found acceptable last year. I’d love to be able to answer him, but I don’t know; can you enlighten me?

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-57 Joe Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:38:55 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-57 I have put in a query to Hansen and will let you know of any reply. I have put in a query to Hansen and will let you know of any reply.

]]> By: Fergus Brown http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-58 Fergus Brown Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:49:30 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-58 Appreciated. As is your blog. I'm adding it to my favourites. One day, I may even say something interesting on it. Regards, Appreciated. As is your blog. I’m adding it to my favourites. One day, I may even say something interesting on it. Regards,

]]> By: Fergus Brown http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-61 Fergus Brown Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:46:11 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-61 No answer from Hansen, then, Joe? Any guesses from you? Regards, No answer from Hansen, then, Joe? Any guesses from you?
Regards,

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-62 Joe Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:31:37 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-62 Just go back to the Climate Science web site and <a href="http://climatesci.atmos.colostate.edu/2006/10/02/what-is-the-surface-temperature-in-the-multi-decadal-global-climate-models-as-referred-to-in-the-hansen-et-al-2006-pnas-paper/#comments" rel="nofollow">read the comments, especially from Gavin Schmidt </a>of NASA and realclimate.org: "Roger, Whether you like it or not (and I guess you don’t), global mean surface temperature is the primary metric of climate change in both the scientific discussion and in public discourse.... Your insinuation that their revisiting of the 1989 paper is an attempt to avoid talking about ocean heat content is beneath you." Just go back to the Climate Science web site and read the comments, especially from Gavin Schmidt of NASA and realclimate.org:

“Roger, Whether you like it or not (and I guess you don’t), global mean surface temperature is the primary metric of climate change in both the scientific discussion and in public discourse…. Your insinuation that their revisiting of the 1989 paper is an attempt to avoid talking about ocean heat content is beneath you.”

]]> By: Brain Lint » Blog Archive » TRETC Panel: Innovation and The Energy Crisis http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-69 Brain Lint » Blog Archive » TRETC Panel: Innovation and The Energy Crisis Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:02:33 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2006/09/25/the-mother-of-all-must-reads-global-temperature-change-by-james-hansen-et-al/#comment-69 [...] I wish the audio of the panel was online. There is this brief article. Here’s a description of some new research that appeared just before the conference and drove some of the discussion. [...] […] I wish the audio of the panel was online. There is this brief article. Here’s a description of some new research that appeared just before the conference and drove some of the discussion. […]

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