now you’re thinking big – any chance of controlling time and space while you’re at it?

Climatologists, biologists and physicists from all corners of the globe agree that U.S. based Gravitational Systems, L.L.C.’s revolutionary clean power climate control project INDRA will improve the lives of billions of people around the world.

Terraforming weather-significant deserts into arable land with evaporated seawater.

Mr.Henderson, director of research and development, explains that the INDRA project, a proposed network of specialized evaporation channels moving sea water from the oceans deep into deserts, will convert world deserts into biodiverse arable areas which promotes a more stable world and regional weather. Deserts which cover 1/3 of all dry land will be terraformed into productive land.

The INDRA systems will give mankind control of the weather, ending dangerous hurricanes, typhoons, tornadoes, and dry heat waves within a decade.

Vast rivers can be turned on and off in hours, and reservoirs and salt marshes drained or replenished in days.

The increased bio-mass of the terraformed deserts will begin to reverse both global warming and thermal sea level rise. UNFCCC cap and trade certification of the INDRA project will allow individuals and business to fund the plan through carbon offsets. The initial projects will be targeted north American, and north African deserts.

Become a member of the INDRA society and spread the concept of practical weather control.

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I think it’s quite obvious to most people that Geo-Engineering cannot be a complete solution. If CO2 were allowed to climb as fast as it likely would with no attempts at emissions reduction, it would reach levels that would not only devastate the world’s oceans through acidification, but it would also lock the world in an unsustainable spiraling loop of ever increasing GH forcing requiring ever more expensive counteracting agents.

That said, many are seriously considering the possibility that while vast entrenched economic systems are adjusted to decarbonize the world, geo-engineering may be a necessity to avoid crossing some of the tipping point thresholds that might bring catastrophic and irreversible climate change.

Sulphate aerosols would seem to have more problems than some of the other proposed ideas. Using aerosolized ocean water to increase the albedo of ocean clouds would seem to have many advantages over the sulphate idea. It wouldn’t contribute to acid rain and the effects would disappear within days of discontinuing the spraying. Seeding the oceans with iron is another idea that probably warrants much more research. It might be a significant contributor to reducing atmospheric CO2 levels and at the same time increase the bioproductivity of the seas.

It would have been great if societies had started addressing climate change 15 or 20 years ago. Geo-engineering would then have likely been totally unnecessary. Unfortunately that didn’t happen. The world simply cannot afford to ignore any ideas that might help avoid the worst case climate scenarios… even if that means compromising some on environmentalist ideals.

But my “The Hype About Hydrogen” book makes the basic case: Your cost of avoided carbon is at least an order of magnitude LOWER for directly displacing coal power with any zero-carbon electricity than using that electricity to make a transport fuel like hydrogen (but the analysis would be similar for F-T diesel). So until you have displaced all coal emissions — something that surely won’t happen BEFORE 2050 (especially for someone who doesn’t believe in the CCS option) — you’d use any available nuclear plant for electricity.

[In any case, it is inconceivable to me that, in a carbon-constrained world, it would make sense to use nuclear power for anything other than electricity through at least the year 2050.]

I don’t know that we have much to talk about.

If you don’t believe in CCS, many of your replies don’t seem to make sense to me.

In any case, it is inconceivable to me that, in a carbon-constrained world, it would make sense to use nuclear power for anything other than electricity through at least the year 2050.

I believe the vehicle fuel of the future will be electricity (plus, probably, cellulosic ethanol). Hydrogen is a dead end. If I’m right, then I suspect the vast majority of nuclear power (or renewables, or coal with CCS, for that matter) will be used for electricity through 2100, though admittedly it gets very difficult to protect technology that far out.