After much research here is what I’ve come to learn. Our planet warmed from the late 19th century until 1940. From 1940 – 1975 our planet cooled. You will all recall that in the mid 70’s that “The Debate Was Over”, “The Consensus Is In”
We are all told that we were just around the corner from a new ice age. Time & Newsweek put this issue on their respective covers. From 1975 – 1998 we went into another warming trend which ended in 1998 know as the “El Nina” year.
Since then temperatures on average have remained stable. Slightly increasing in the Northern Hemisphere was slightly decreasing in the Southern. On the whole we had an increase of approx. 1 degree C during the last 100 years.

We were told that hurricanes would dramatically increase. Since Katrina no hurricane has made land fall in the U.S. Only 4 category 3 storms were even recorded since January 2006. Al Gore along with the IPCC were awarded the Nobel Prize for their work on Global Warming. Al Gore says sea level rise will be 20 feet by the end the this century (i’m sure Dr. Hansen is predicting the same thing to occur by next Tuesday). The IPPC reported that maximum sea level rise to be between 23 – 31 inches by the end of the century. They share the prize while their findings are outlandishly different.

We always see news reports of the glaciers melting or receding. Why no news about the Glaciers that are advancing? I would guess that every single glacier on the planet must be receding at the same time. Not. We also get full news coverage every time some ice breaks off the polar caps. This is known as calving. This occurs when the weight of the ice (usually on water) is too heavy for the ice cap on land to bear. Hence the ice berg breaks off or calves. Many reports have stated that some of polar caps are gaining more ice… no reports that you’ll see on TV mind you. That doesn’t make for scary news.

The government recently lost it’s bid to pass a carbon tax/ cap & trade policy.
This is a plan that has already failed miserably in Europe. Had it passed we would have been bearing the burden of a 4.2 TRILLION tax increase over the next 35 years or so. Nothing done in the U.S. will curb any man made global warming if it actually exists. Talk to me when China, India & Brazil are totally on board to reduce emissions.

So what is probably causing the warming? Take a look in the sky people. We are currently in what the scientists call the solar maximum. Sun spot activity is increasing and should peak around 2011. Expect further cooling in a few years.

If C02 concentration is indeed the culprit then lowering it and the only way to cool the planet. What is the ideal concentration? What if the globe makes a huge effort to reduce C02 as the concentration plummets to the point where an ice age is around the corner? What will the alarmists do? Eat snow cones maybe.

In closing, our climate has been changing for 4 billion years. It has adapted and regulated itself and will continue to do so for another few billion years or so.
Man is such a minute part of the global system that we are truly arrogant if we think we can control climate. The Earth is going to do what it’s going to do and there is NOTHING we can do to stop. Man will just need to adapt to the planet’s climate whims.

Jay was clearly not talking about being silenced by the IPCC, but by the Moderator. He is right. As an apparent critic, he was silenced by someone in “the scientific community”. He certainly had his facts straight about that. The Moderator proved it by silencing him. Furthermore, “countries” do not speak. Individuals do. Whether we like it or not, it is true that a number of individuals who have analysis and data contrary to the IPCC’s positions have been excluded from the process, and hence their reports excluded from consideration by “the scientific community”.

The Moderator may also wish to understand that that all science is “premature”. Science is a continuous learning process. Understanding evolves, and hopefully improves over time as new information and new ideas are considered. To imply that any science is totally understood is awfully arrogant.

The Moderator may also take note that there are plenty of people “pushing” global warming who are working to a political agenda, not a scientific one. It is not just “the scientific community” because there is no such “community”, only associations of like-minded individuals, some of which have decided to agree on a position, give an authoritative name to themselves, “the scientific community”, and exclude those who do not have the same position. There are thousands of voices in science, not all of which are singing the same tune.

For the specific case above, and maybe what motivated me to write, I actually knew one of the guys incidentally involved with the Martian meteorite. The team really believed they had discovered evidence of life and had done their due diligence to their abilities. They knew proof could only come after all the other possibilities were systematically excluded, possibilities that were beyond their expertise and understanding. Even though he was not intimately involved, the guy I knew was embarrassed at how it was handled. He said they should never have used public channels for dissemination. I do not think the idea that mass media is being used is silly at all. Mass media necessarily simplifies complex issues into sound bites. For a complicated subject like Global Warming, it is impossible to expect mass media to be able to explain it to the largely scientifically illiterate public in a way that can be understood. The media is also being used for political purposes using the science of Global Warming as a cover. It is a valid issue.

Let’s see what Jay has to say. After seeing the Moderator take an active role in deleting comments he apparently does not agree with, I am curious about why the Moderator must think his comments are so damaging to the science and why we should not be allowed to read them to make up our own minds on how silly they are. I request that the Moderator re-post the deleted part of the comment. Perhaps the Moderator should also consider an apology.

[JR: This is laughable. "Those who are pushing the idea that humans are causing global warming" are the scientific community. The IPCC allows every single member government to change any word they don't like in the IPCC summaries. This is the exact opposite of silencing critics, it is giving them a complete veto rights on all IPCC reports. Please get your facts straight before posting here again, or you will be banned from this website.]

Quite sometime later, there was a big news announcement on the discovery of strong evidence of life in a meteorite from Mars and that this discovery was going to change how we viewed the world. And it didn’t.

My biggest problem signing on to Human Caused Global Warming is that it is being disseminated through media channels.

[JR -- rest of comment deleted. Gimme a break. Everything is disseminated through media channels. This is the silliest comment I've ever seen. You need to distinguish between premature announcements made by one or two scientists, and decades of study, hundreds of major papers, based on thousands of the observations.]

watch this and its following parts

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI

cooling cannot prevent warming?

Hmm…

go back long term. 10,000 years. We have been on a general cooling trend since 10,000 years ago. What we’re in now is one of the many upward fluctuations.

Hmm…

I do not deny that c02 warms the atmosphere. I’m saying our emissions are too tiny and c02 to weak to make any difference at all.

For the US, no. Guess which country has the most reliable data? The US.

What does that say about the rest of the world?

See that 1940-1970 drop? according to the theory, that should be impossible.

Flawed?

So the skeptics like to point out little things. At least they don’t commit scientific fraud.

Example: hockey stick.