Comments on: Geo-engineering remains a bad idea http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:09:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Lou Grinzo http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6247 Lou Grinzo Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:42:39 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6247 A new step in the progression of GW deniers. The planet's not warming. Oh, it is. It's not man-made (human beings couldn't possibly warm the whole planet!). Oh, we did. There's nothing to be done about it. Oh, the costs of doing nothing far outstrip the costs of taking action. We can geoengineer the planet (hey, we CAN change things!), and it's cheaper than fixing the root problem, CO2 emissions. Oh, that's too risky. Oh, brother. A new step in the progression of GW deniers.

The planet’s not warming. Oh, it is.

It’s not man-made (human beings couldn’t possibly warm the whole planet!). Oh, we did.

There’s nothing to be done about it. Oh, the costs of doing nothing far outstrip the costs of taking action.

We can geoengineer the planet (hey, we CAN change things!), and it’s cheaper than fixing the root problem, CO2 emissions. Oh, that’s too risky.

Oh, brother.

]]> By: David Appell http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6250 David Appell Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:05:25 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6250 Joe, you repeatedly claim that geoengineering is a bad idea, but you have never once offered a reasonable alternative. Not one of your ideas will cut GHG emissions by 80% over the next several decades. Not one. You're just hoping for pie-in-the-sky, and you and your side have never shown how we can reach such GHG cuts while maintaining our standard of living. And one thing is sure, people WILL NOT give up their standard of living.... Joe, you repeatedly claim that geoengineering is a bad idea, but you have never once offered a reasonable alternative. Not one of your ideas will cut GHG emissions by 80% over the next several decades. Not one. You’re just hoping for pie-in-the-sky, and you and your side have never shown how we can reach such GHG cuts while maintaining our standard of living. And one thing is sure, people WILL NOT give up their standard of living….

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6252 Joe Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:50:27 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6252 The idea is mitigation -- you might read my book for more details, though the essential strategy has been posted here. But I'll run through the solution in November, I think. The idea is mitigation — you might read my book for more details, though the essential strategy has been posted here. But I’ll run through the solution in November, I think.

]]> By: AVE_fan http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6278 AVE_fan Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:51:08 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-6278 The term "geoengineering" is being applied only to the use of sulfate aerosols to block incoming sunlight. For a different version, involving the facilitation of rapid transfer of warm surface air to the upper layer of the troposphere, see the website www.vortexengine.ca and link to the July article in the Toronto Star for additional details. The term “geoengineering” is being applied only to the use of sulfate aerosols to block incoming sunlight. For a different version, involving the facilitation of rapid transfer of warm surface air to the upper layer of the troposphere, see the website www.vortexengine.ca and link to the July article in the Toronto Star for additional details.

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-9298 paulm Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:26:01 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/10/18/geo-engineering-remains-a-bad-idea/#comment-9298 Of course things are getting bad...I think that geoengineering is going to be used at some point by the good and bad guys. One way of injecting aerosols in to the atmosphere that I have not come across - would be provoking volcanic eruptions. This is something that should be achievable. Of course we must reach a state of virtual Zero CO2 emission also! Of course things are getting bad…I think that geoengineering is going to be used at some point by the good and bad guys. One way of injecting aerosols in to the atmosphere that I have not come across - would be provoking volcanic eruptions. This is something that should be achievable. Of course we must reach a state of virtual Zero CO2 emission also!

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