Comments on: Memo to Air Force: Stop misleading the public on liquid coal

By: obewan

obewan — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:12:20 +0000

Liquid coal made with carbon sequestration is as clean or cleaner than conventional fuels. Carbon sequestration has already been proven at Kinder Morgan in TX where over 1 billion cu-ft of co2 is captured daily and pumped underground for storage forever. Our conventional fuel supply will be entirely gone by 2050, with severe shortages of epic proportions happening way before that. Ethanol and bio-diesel will never take up the slack. We need to be open to all options if we expect the human race to survive. Even if liquid coal were to add to global warming (which it won’t with carbon seqestration), it might be moot because we will starve before global warming becomes an issue if we don’t use it.

By: Ted

Ted — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:43:48 +0000

When you argued that the Air Force could not zero out emissions in the future, did you consider the bases where wind and solar are being implemented? It would seem to be theoretically possible that between renewable energy production at installations and using some fraction of fuel from biomass (whether it be coal biomass mix or pure biomass based farther down the road), the Air Force could reach zero. Are you arguing that this is impossible?

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:11:58 +0000

It is impossible if they use liquid coal.
It is not necessarily impossible if they use biofuels.

By: TheSUBWAY.com

TheSUBWAY.com — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:14:31 +0000

It’s good to hear BP & GM talk about alternative fuels, but 50 years to implement is too long.

http://money.cnn.com/ 2008/ 03/ 05/ news/ companies/ bigoil_hydrogen/ index.htm

Perhaps this link will spark more attention:

http://www.chevrolet.com/electriccar/

It is GM’s electric concept car the Chevy Volt. If more people begin to demand alternative fuel cars, we should be able to speed the rate at which the technology is developed.

We have started an Investor Forum where Investors can meet and discuss topics like this:

http://investor-forum.thesubway.com/

By: E.M.Smith

E.M.Smith — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:42:51 +0000

The company supplying the Air Force with FT jet fuel has carbon sequestration built into their process. CO2 is in high demand for end stage oil recovery from old oil fields (that’s why the oil companies have started making nice about CO2 sequestration - they see a way to force the coal companies to provide the CO2 they want for oil field stripping…)

Yes, burning the jet fuel releases the same CO2 as oil derived fuel. To get to zero footprint they will need an offset - kind of like AlGore does… Why throw rocks at them for moving away from OPEC and working on CO2 capture?

BTW, the Navy also has a program to recycle their used cooking oil into biodiesel. It eliminates that hauling in of that much petroleum diesel AND the disposal of the cooking oil. It’s a significant effort.

We ought to be encouraging these folks in their efforts, not chucking rocks at them. If they want to, the Air Force could also feed their trash and other biomass to the FT process rather than coal. That may be their end game. Prove it out on cheap easy to get coal, then cut over to biomass and trash over time. No, this isn’t speculation. I’ve seen an Army request for bid for a trash to electricity system. The military is very interested in a zero footprint for trash and for fuels, or as close to it as they can get.

I’ll believe in the Volt when I see them on sale. Remember the EV1 melt down?

By: Earl Killian

Earl Killian — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:13:02 +0000

E.M. Smith, what EV1 melt down? GM leased every EV1 they made and then wrote letters to the thousands on the waiting list to say there were no more. When the leases were up, they refused to renew the leases, but instead took the cars away from drivers who begged to keep them. GM then crushed them. Had GM advertised and sold the vehicle in all 50 states, and produced the vehicles year after year, it could have had much larger volumes. It didn’t want to; it wanted to destroy any evidence of the EV1’s existence. They’ve changed their mind recently.

By: AL Gore Not

AL Gore Not — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:49:39 +0000

Add up all the remarks on this subject and it comes down to one thing. CTO is not owned by the USA. We, private companies have a few patents and they have proven that the product of CTO will run the AF, Army, Marines, and Navy for a century, if the world survives that long.

So if the old USA doesn’t produce oil from coal, we will buy the product from China or somm other country because we have so many dumb asses who just write so they can read themselves.

Make the oil and work on CO2 later. By the way dont we get CO2 from cow patties?