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		<title>By: shalah</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-28846</link>
		<dc:creator>shalah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what kind of qualties do you have like how long did you go to school and stuff like that i need to know by monday so i can finish my science project i have to take all the qualities you have and make it into a help wanted ad... so send me a message explaining at marr_shalah@yahoo.com please... hurry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what kind of qualties do you have like how long did you go to school and stuff like that i need to know by monday so i can finish my science project i have to take all the qualities you have and make it into a help wanted ad&#8230; so send me a message explaining at <a href="mailto:marr_shalah@yahoo.com">marr_shalah@yahoo.com</a> please&#8230; hurry</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-13653</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just wondering if it was real Why was there no stars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just wondering if it was real Why was there no stars?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-9185</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Coleman&#039;s participation in the global warming debate is obviously politically partisan and has nothing to do with his being a broadcast meteorologist.  Just read about the &quot;2008 International Conference on Climate Change&quot; in which he was a speaker and the &quot;Heartland Institute&quot; which sponsored it.  Is the Heartland Institute a climate organization or a consortium of scientists? No, in fact, &quot;Heartland&#039;s mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. Such solutions include parental choice in education, choice and personal responsibility in health care, market-based approaches to environmental protection, privatization of public services, and deregulation in areas where property rights and markets do a better job than government bureaucracies.&quot;  Okay, so they are against the idea of human-induced global warming because they are against raising taxes and increasing regulations.  They believe no one should ever be restricted by the government.  Fine, this is a valid political point of view, but it is not valid science.  The only people &quot;creating&quot; science to fit their views are the attendees of this bogus scientific conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Coleman&#8217;s participation in the global warming debate is obviously politically partisan and has nothing to do with his being a broadcast meteorologist.  Just read about the &#8220;2008 International Conference on Climate Change&#8221; in which he was a speaker and the &#8220;Heartland Institute&#8221; which sponsored it.  Is the Heartland Institute a climate organization or a consortium of scientists? No, in fact, &#8220;Heartland&#8217;s mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. Such solutions include parental choice in education, choice and personal responsibility in health care, market-based approaches to environmental protection, privatization of public services, and deregulation in areas where property rights and markets do a better job than government bureaucracies.&#8221;  Okay, so they are against the idea of human-induced global warming because they are against raising taxes and increasing regulations.  They believe no one should ever be restricted by the government.  Fine, this is a valid political point of view, but it is not valid science.  The only people &#8220;creating&#8221; science to fit their views are the attendees of this bogus scientific conference.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Jackson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6812</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen Macy - sure, Mr. Glen Macy.  I am sure you did your own research.  Yep, you had your own space shuttle to launch so you could observe how crystalline solids behave in zero gravity, observing how they begin to coalesce through electrical static charge that is created upon frictional collisions, mimicking cloud formations.  I am sure you went into the caves of New Mexico by yourself to study the annular stalagmite formations that record solar activity over thousands of years, evident through carbon dating and radioactive data.  And surely you built your own supercollider deep underground in Europe so that you may hopefully synthesize galactic background radiation in an hyrdrogen/oxygen-saturated air filled tube to observe what cloud formations may be like during periods of weak solar magnetic fields.  And of course, you have your own UV data as it relates to cloud formation and ozone protection during weak solar periods.  

What you really did is take the research of a very few scientific people who are just embarking on new studies that aren’t even acknowledged by the scientific community as current theory.  The science in these areas are in their infancy.  It is a collection of “maybes” and “what if’s.”  They may turn out to be right, but don’t act like it is accepted that they are and that you carried the research out yourself.  

We all use OTHER expertise to support our claims.  You aren’t a scientist.  And if “you” aren’t a scientist in the majority, you had better stand up to pier review or else you are just a fringe scientist until proven otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen Macy &#8211; sure, Mr. Glen Macy.  I am sure you did your own research.  Yep, you had your own space shuttle to launch so you could observe how crystalline solids behave in zero gravity, observing how they begin to coalesce through electrical static charge that is created upon frictional collisions, mimicking cloud formations.  I am sure you went into the caves of New Mexico by yourself to study the annular stalagmite formations that record solar activity over thousands of years, evident through carbon dating and radioactive data.  And surely you built your own supercollider deep underground in Europe so that you may hopefully synthesize galactic background radiation in an hyrdrogen/oxygen-saturated air filled tube to observe what cloud formations may be like during periods of weak solar magnetic fields.  And of course, you have your own UV data as it relates to cloud formation and ozone protection during weak solar periods.  </p>
<p>What you really did is take the research of a very few scientific people who are just embarking on new studies that aren’t even acknowledged by the scientific community as current theory.  The science in these areas are in their infancy.  It is a collection of “maybes” and “what if’s.”  They may turn out to be right, but don’t act like it is accepted that they are and that you carried the research out yourself.  </p>
<p>We all use OTHER expertise to support our claims.  You aren’t a scientist.  And if “you” aren’t a scientist in the majority, you had better stand up to pier review or else you are just a fringe scientist until proven otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6807</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, Ron, there are a fair number of different degrees one can get on the way to becoming a climate scientist, and a PhD in meteorology is one of them.  Confusingly, having such a degree does not necessarily mean one is a climate scientist.  A related degree type (atmosphere science) leaves no question.  In any case someone with just a bachelor&#039;s or master&#039;s in meteorology doesn&#039;t pass the initial smell test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, Ron, there are a fair number of different degrees one can get on the way to becoming a climate scientist, and a PhD in meteorology is one of them.  Confusingly, having such a degree does not necessarily mean one is a climate scientist.  A related degree type (atmosphere science) leaves no question.  In any case someone with just a bachelor&#8217;s or master&#8217;s in meteorology doesn&#8217;t pass the initial smell test.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6803</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen Macy ---  All that from just a four word comment?  I&#039;m impressed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen Macy &#8212;  All that from just a four word comment?  I&#8217;m impressed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6802</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Real yes. Catastrophic, hardly. Have you ever thought what Earth would be like without global warming?&quot;

That&#039;s a bit like saying that a house fire is not catastrophic in the winter  because heating the house keeps you from freezing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Real yes. Catastrophic, hardly. Have you ever thought what Earth would be like without global warming?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit like saying that a house fire is not catastrophic in the winter  because heating the house keeps you from freezing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6801</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many meteorologists were involved in the IPCC study?

Any numbers on that, Joe? How many people total; how many were climatologists; how many meteorologists; how many &#039;other&#039; scientists; how many &#039;other&#039; non-scientists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many meteorologists were involved in the IPCC study?</p>
<p>Any numbers on that, Joe? How many people total; how many were climatologists; how many meteorologists; how many &#8216;other&#8217; scientists; how many &#8216;other&#8217; non-scientists?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6795</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Global Warming is Real and Catastrophic&quot;

Real yes. Catastrophic, hardly. Have you ever thought what Earth would be like without global warming? Global warming is what makes life possible. It&#039;s what keeps us all from freezing to death at night. Compare the amount of life on Earth, which has global warming, to the moon, which has none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Global Warming is Real and Catastrophic&#8221;</p>
<p>Real yes. Catastrophic, hardly. Have you ever thought what Earth would be like without global warming? Global warming is what makes life possible. It&#8217;s what keeps us all from freezing to death at night. Compare the amount of life on Earth, which has global warming, to the moon, which has none.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther Franklin</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/14/are-meteorologists-climate-experts/#comment-6793</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a dull mind, indeed, that doesn&#039;t understand that Global Warming is Real and Catastrophic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a dull mind, indeed, that doesn&#8217;t understand that Global Warming is Real and Catastrophic.</p>
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