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	<title>Comments on: James Hansen, writing on peak oil, gets rejected</title>
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		<title>By: Lou Grinzo</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/15/james-hansen-peak-oil-global-warming/#comment-6788</link>
		<author>Lou Grinzo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>To paraphrase Homer Simpson, "It fails to work on so many levels!"

(Meaning the review process, not Hansen's work.)

I'm not surprised by what Hansen went through.  I've published in a number of magazines over the years, all in a much more commercial vein, and that experience has always been a good substitute for hallucinogenic drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Homer Simpson, &#8220;It fails to work on so many levels!&#8221;</p>
<p>(Meaning the review process, not Hansen&#8217;s work.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by what Hansen went through.  I&#8217;ve published in a number of magazines over the years, all in a much more commercial vein, and that experience has always been a good substitute for hallucinogenic drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mashey</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/15/james-hansen-peak-oil-global-warming/#comment-6794</link>
		<author>John Mashey</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, happens all the time ... but actually, there is use to this example.

Some people believe that a senior researcher's work automagically sails through peer review and gets accepted.  Nope.

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Brian Kernighan [might be familiar to computer people] &#38; I once submitted an article to a computer conference, purposefully taking a somewhat different approach to the conference topic than we expected most would.

It was rejected:

2 referees said it was very good, and very apropos, accept
1 said: "heard it before, nothing new", reject
1 said "has nothing to do with this conference", reject

Someone went to the conference, and it turned out that quite a bit of discussion involved exactly this approach.

A bit later, a journal editor was bugging Brian for articles, so he pulled it out and they published it.  later yet, people at IEEE Computer really wanted a version of it also, so we updated it and published it there as well, in 1981.  It still occasionally gets cited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, happens all the time &#8230; but actually, there is use to this example.</p>
<p>Some people believe that a senior researcher&#8217;s work automagically sails through peer review and gets accepted.  Nope.</p>
<p>====<br />
Brian Kernighan [might be familiar to computer people] &amp; I once submitted an article to a computer conference, purposefully taking a somewhat different approach to the conference topic than we expected most would.</p>
<p>It was rejected:</p>
<p>2 referees said it was very good, and very apropos, accept<br />
1 said: &#8220;heard it before, nothing new&#8221;, reject<br />
1 said &#8220;has nothing to do with this conference&#8221;, reject</p>
<p>Someone went to the conference, and it turned out that quite a bit of discussion involved exactly this approach.</p>
<p>A bit later, a journal editor was bugging Brian for articles, so he pulled it out and they published it.  later yet, people at IEEE Computer really wanted a version of it also, so we updated it and published it there as well, in 1981.  It still occasionally gets cited.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/15/james-hansen-peak-oil-global-warming/#comment-6884</link>
		<author>Brian Schmidt</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe I'm being dense, but I didn't see the response to Reviewer 2's assertion:

"However, in all SRES scenarios the production of conventional oil starts to decline at some point. Therefore, peak oil is part of the SRES scenarios."

This seems like something that should have a yes or no answer as to whether it's true, and fairly central to the issue of whether the paper should be published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m being dense, but I didn&#8217;t see the response to Reviewer 2&#8217;s assertion:</p>
<p>&#8220;However, in all SRES scenarios the production of conventional oil starts to decline at some point. Therefore, peak oil is part of the SRES scenarios.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems like something that should have a yes or no answer as to whether it&#8217;s true, and fairly central to the issue of whether the paper should be published.</p>
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