Comments on: VW: “Fuel cell cars won’t save the world” http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:48:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Theodore http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-32251 Theodore Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:01:57 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-32251 As a hydrogen advocate, I see criticism of fuel cell vehicles based on the assertion that carbon emissions are still a problem as completely absurd. I don't advocate the use of hydrogen produced by any carbon-fueled process, and I cannot imagine why environmentally concerned readers of Climate Progress would consider such a system. The basic assumption of the hydrogen vehicle concept is that renewable energy will be used to generate the hydrogen. If not, then it is unsupportable. It comes entirely to a question of cost. Until the whole process has been tested by substantial commercialization, I would never dream of having any confidence in projections that paint the electrolysis option as too expensive. We should withhold judgements about cost until substantial commercialization makes a ruling. Until then, it's just a debate between variously deficient imaginations. As a hydrogen advocate, I see criticism of fuel cell vehicles based on the assertion that carbon emissions are still a problem as completely absurd. I don’t advocate the use of hydrogen produced by any carbon-fueled process, and I cannot imagine why environmentally concerned readers of Climate Progress would consider such a system. The basic assumption of the hydrogen vehicle concept is that renewable energy will be used to generate the hydrogen. If not, then it is unsupportable. It comes entirely to a question of cost. Until the whole process has been tested by substantial commercialization, I would never dream of having any confidence in projections that paint the electrolysis option as too expensive. We should withhold judgements about cost until substantial commercialization makes a ruling. Until then, it’s just a debate between variously deficient imaginations.

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-7053 Joe Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:45:40 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-7053 Sorry -- hydrogen cells don't make hydrogen from water. Electrolyzers, do -- and they need tons of old-style electricity to do so. Sorry — hydrogen cells don’t make hydrogen from water. Electrolyzers, do — and they need tons of old-style electricity to do so.

]]> By: Lisa Roberts http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-7051 Lisa Roberts Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:42:47 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-7051 The only thing stopping a working hydrogen cell is money. Money, that won't be going into the pockets of the big powers. There are fuel cells that use water to make hydrogen there would be no need for hydrogen filling stations. It would change the economy too much I suppose for the average person to not have to buy fuel. Compressed air could be used too but again the people who control money aren't going to go for it. Someone could probably make some big bucks selling plans for a hydrogen cell that produces hydrogen from water that can be installed on a vehicle. The people who could do this probably do fear for their lives... The only thing stopping a working hydrogen cell is money. Money, that won’t be going into the pockets of the big powers.

There are fuel cells that use water to make hydrogen there would be no need for hydrogen filling stations. It would change the economy too much I suppose for the average person to not have to buy fuel.

Compressed air could be used too but again the people who control money aren’t going to go for it.

Someone could probably make some big bucks selling plans for a hydrogen cell that produces hydrogen from water that can be installed on a vehicle. The people who could do this probably do fear for their lives…

]]> By: Ken Armstrong http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-6876 Ken Armstrong Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:46:36 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-6876 Dear sirs, I am new to your web page so I do not know whether you have looked into Compressed Air Technology (CAT) as a viable option. Please see attached link http://www.theaircar.com/index.html Best regards Dear sirs,

I am new to your web page so I do not know whether you have looked into Compressed Air Technology (CAT) as a viable option. Please see attached link

http://www.theaircar.com/index.html

Best regards

]]> By: Eric Sutherland http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-6875 Eric Sutherland Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:28:14 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/23/vw-fuel-cell-cars-wont-save-the-world/#comment-6875 Another devastating blow to the pseustainability movement. Another devastating blow to the pseustainability movement.

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