more here http://solveclimate.com/ blog/ 20071114/ case-study-how-climate-skeptics-spoon-feed-wall-street-journal

Fixed it for him. also has to change “global warming” to “iran’s nuclear bomb program”.

2) We had some interesting discussion of this over on Deltoid, starting with talks about better science reporting, but generating some interesting WSJ commentary:
http://scienceblogs.com/ deltoid/ 2007/ 10/ john_mashey_what_to_do_about_p.php#more

See well-informed comment #8, which starts:
“As a former reporter and a former press secretary for a U.S. Senator who had a lot of business with both ends of the Wall Street Journal, I…”

3) I’m slightly troubled by the use of the term “conservative”, but maybe because the term might cover {John McCain, Olympia Snowe} …. {James Inhofe, WSJ Editorial}.

I also find The Green Elephant:, Republicans for Environmental Protection:
http://www.rep.org/ news/ GEvol5/ ge5.1_globalwarming.html

Big chunks of their climate policy look like they could have been taken from ClimateProgress, although some more education on hydrogen would help

http://www.repamerica.org/policy/climate.html

Their congressional scorecard is actually pretty interesting:
http://www.rep.org/2006_scorecard.pdf

Put another way, there are a bunch of people who label themselves conservatives [after all, that includes CA’s Governor] who, at least on climate change issues, have views not too dissimilar to those usually called progressives.

There are of course, the subset of conservatives who would deny global warming even after Washington DC is under water ….

Maybe we need more precise labels, but while the second group deserves all the demonizing it can get, I think it’s counterproductive to include the first group.

As a political independent, I usually have a strong preference for having lots of moderates and good articulation of views from both sides, and do not view with good feeling what seems to be a political death-wish on the part of a big chunk of the Republican Party.
In CA, it has marginalized itself in many areas, and over the long term, that is actually Not Good.

BushII and his wreched mal-adminstration has wrecked the R party and just doesn’t care about the rest of the US or world citizens. Slowly, even some of those 28%’s that still support the pres-dunce are coming to realize that he has hurt many people and our earth is ways we don’t even know about yet.

Climate Change Advocates Feel A Ground Swell
By JEFF NESMITH
Cox News Service
Saturday, January 20, 2007

WASHINGTON — Evangelical leaders and climate scientists on Wednesday issued a joint “call for action,” warning President Bush and members of Congress that with problems like global warming “business as usual cannot continue yet one more day.”

The joint statement, formulated during a three-day retreat late last year at the genteel Melhana Plantation in Thomasville, Ga., was signed by 28 evangelical and scientific leaders…..

…Religious leaders signing the statement included Richard Cizik, vice president of the National Association of Evangelicals; Jim Ball, executive director of the Evangelical Environmental Network; Daryl Eldridge, president of Rockbridge Seminary in Springfield, Mo; David P. Gushee, professor of moral philosophy at Union University in Nashville, Tenn., and Cheryl Bridges Johns, professor of Christian formation at the Church of God Theological Seminary…

The same is done with the science of human machine caused Global Warming. It’s all part of some left wing political cabal.

But we all do this to some extent. It’s our psychological nature for the things we benefit from to be true. If I were making billions and billions of dollars doing something, it would be hard for me to stop it or for anybody to convince me that I should stop it. Which is why I am not to convinced that we will ever be able to make the changes necessary to fix the problem.

Why the climate change wolf is so hard to kill off

By Martin Wolf

Published: December 5 2007 02:00 | Last updated: December 5 2007 02:00

The point of the story of the boy who cried wolf is that, finally, a wolf did appear. I feel the same way about the intellectual heirs of Thomas Malthus. Malthusians have finally found a wolf called climate change. Many now agree. But it is far away and coming slowly. “If the worst comes to the worst,” mutter the rich to themselves, “we can always let our children cope.”

This is the complacency that the latest Human Development Report from the United Nations Development Programme attacks. It does a good job, too. But does it do a good enough job to turn the Bali climate change conference into a call for effective action? I fear not. This is not because it fails to make a morally sound case. It is rather because humanity will change its behaviour only when convinced that the lifestyle the better off enjoy now - and the rest of the world aspires to - remains in reach.

This cynical view of human behaviour is fully consistent with what has happened so far. For it is as if the Kyoto treaty had never been. Is this judgment too harsh? Consider just a few of the many facts contained in this report: atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide continue to rise at a rate of 1.9 parts per million a year; over the past 10 years the annual growth rate of emissions has been 30 per cent faster than the average for the past 40 years; if the rate of emission were to rise in line with current trends, stocks of CO 2 in the atmosphere might be double pre-industrial levels by 2035; and that, argues the International Panel on Climate Change, would give a likely temperature increase of 3°C, though rises of over 4.5°C cannot be excluded. If the science is right, the world is doomed to significant climate change.

The report takes a temperature increase of 2°C as the threshold of “dangerous climate change”. Achieving that means draconian cuts in emissions: “If the world were a single country it would have to cut emissions of greenhouse gases by half by 2050 relative to 1990 levels . . . However the world is not a single country. Using plausible assumptions, we estimate that avoiding dangerous climate change will require rich countries to cut emissions by at least 80 per cent, with cuts of 30 per cent by 2020. Emissions from developing countries would peak around 2020, with cuts of 20 per cent by 2050.”

The one point in favour of George W. Bush’s US or John Howard’s Australia is that they were not hypocritical. For the signal feature of most of the commitments made so far has been the failure to meet them (see chart). The vaunted European emissions trading system has been more a way of transferring quota rent to a few big emitters than an effective means of emissions control. The UK government has, for example, been honest enough to admit that large electricity generators gained £1.2bn in quota rent for 2005 alone.

Can the world do better in future? Yes, but it will find it hard. If we are to understand why, we must confront the fact that the world is far from a single country. This creates three huge problems: collective (in)action; perceived injustice; and indifference.

First, not only does each country want to be a free rider on the efforts of others but none feels wholly responsible for the outcome.

Second, the contributions made by different countries to the problem have been (and remain) enormously different. Collectively, the rich countries account for seven out of every 10 tonnes of CO 2 emitted since the start of the industrial era. While China is the biggest emitter in the world, its emissions are still only one-fifth of US levels per head. India’s are one-fifteenth.

Third, as the report spells out in compelling detail, the heaviest cost will be borne by the world’s poor. Among the most frightening consequences are those for rainfall and glaciers: water shortages could become severe across large swaths of the globe. Poor people are far less able to cope with climatic disasters than rich ones. But this, if we were honest, is why the rich are unlikely to make the huge reductions in emissions the report demands. The powerful will continue to act without much consideration for the poor. This, after all, is a world that spends 10 times as much on defence (much of it useless) as on aid to poor countries.

How might this change? The answer is that we must appeal at least as much to people’s self-interest as to their morality. Yes, we have a moral obligation to consider both the poor and future generations. Yes, the fact that the changes in the composition of the atmosphere are, to all intents and purposes, irreversible makes early and effective action essential. But acceptance of these points will not be sufficient to obtain meaningful action, instead of pious aspirations and much pretence. A good example of the latter is the proposition that it is enough to lower the carbon intensity of output. Alas, it is not, unless the reduction is very large indeed.

Two things are needed. The first is convincing evidence that the true risks are larger than many now suppose. Conceivable feedback effects might, for example, generate temperature increases of 20°C. That would be the end of the world as we know it. I cannot imagine a rational person who would not seek to eliminate even the possibility of such outcomes. But if we are to do that, we must also act very soon.

The second requirement is to demonstrate that it is possible for us to thrive with low-carbon emissions. People in the northern hemisphere are not going to choose to be cold now, in order to prevent the world from becoming far too hot in future. China and India are not going to forgo development, either. These are realities that cannot be ignored.

The UNDP report argues that the low-carbon future it wants could be achieved at a cost of 1.6 per cent of global output between now and 2030. Such round numbers look attractively modest. But the question people will still ask themselves is what this might mean for their own standards of living. Advocates of change will have to persuade people that living in a low-carbon economy does not mean giving up everything they enjoy. People will not wear hair shirts, whatever they may pretend.

In short, if they are to tolerate radical change in energy use, people must first be frightened and then they must be offered a good way out. The truth, moreover, is that this will happen only if the US also takes the lead. No country will deliver radical cuts if the US does not do so, too. No leaps forward in science and technology will occur if the US is not prepared to commit its resources to those ends. The US can no longer wait for a lead from others. Either it takes the lead now or the cause, in all probability, will be lost. Our children and grandchildren will then find out whether it was a real wolf or not.

martin.wolf@ft.com

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007

3 to 5 out of 50 in the Senate is not “lots”. There are very, very few. In the Senate, Snowe, Warner, McCain is about it. Unfortunately Warner is retiring, and Snowe is being booted out because her Republican base thinks shes a DINO for believing in “the hoax of global warming” and other librul ideas.

The easiest (no censorship) place to try and instruct WSJ luddites is its energy blog:
http://blogs.wsj.com/ energy/ 2007/ 12/ 03/ cap-and-charade/

http://acropolisreview.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 11/ al-gores-endorsement-for-democratic.html