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	<title>Comments on: Disentangling the confusion of Bali</title>
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		<title>By: tidal</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7399</link>
		<dc:creator>tidal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does that work?</p>
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		<title>By: tidal</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7398</link>
		<dc:creator>tidal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF!</description>
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		<title>By: Beefeater</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7396</link>
		<dc:creator>Beefeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All of the worst polluters showed up.&quot;

Well you got that right Joe, they all showed up in their private jets and ran enough air conditioning to freeze meat. Did they decide what the &quot;normal&quot; climate should be? Did they explain past warming and cooling cycles? No, they just ragged on developed countries and had their greedy hands out for more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All of the worst polluters showed up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well you got that right Joe, they all showed up in their private jets and ran enough air conditioning to freeze meat. Did they decide what the &#8220;normal&#8221; climate should be? Did they explain past warming and cooling cycles? No, they just ragged on developed countries and had their greedy hands out for more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7393</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the worst polluters showed up.  Who wasn&#039;t there?

It is expected that most countries will meet their targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the worst polluters showed up.  Who wasn&#8217;t there?</p>
<p>It is expected that most countries will meet their targets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is Maurice Strong&#039;s comments on Bali:

http://www.ipsnews.net/columns.asp?idnews=40498

The United Nations Conference on Climate Change was only a necessary first step along what will be a rough road to agreement on the cooperative measures required to bring the risks of climate change under control. The last minute compromise to establish a continuing negotiating process was only reached on a weakened and watered-down basis, writes Maurice Strong, secretary-general of the 1972 UN Conference on the Human Environment and the first executive director of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). 

In this analysis, Strong writes that we must treat the dangers of climate change as a security issue, the most important threat to global security we will ever face. 

The author calls for establishment of a Climate Security Fund of $1,000,000,000,000 to be financed by those countries that have contributed most to cumulative emissions. The Fund would be utilised to assist developing countries to reduce the growth of their emissions and adapt to adverse conditions resulting from already irreversible changes. 

The kind of climate security regime that would result from these and other indispensable measures goes well beyond Bali and what is considered realistic by most under today&#039;s conditions, but are imperative if we are to secure the conditions that support life as we know it

*****

Maurice Strong is an interesting guy, ever Google him?

Also, you might like this GloGov (Global Governance Project) site -

http://www.glogov.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is Maurice Strong&#8217;s comments on Bali:</p>
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<p>The United Nations Conference on Climate Change was only a necessary first step along what will be a rough road to agreement on the cooperative measures required to bring the risks of climate change under control. The last minute compromise to establish a continuing negotiating process was only reached on a weakened and watered-down basis, writes Maurice Strong, secretary-general of the 1972 UN Conference on the Human Environment and the first executive director of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). </p>
<p>In this analysis, Strong writes that we must treat the dangers of climate change as a security issue, the most important threat to global security we will ever face. </p>
<p>The author calls for establishment of a Climate Security Fund of $1,000,000,000,000 to be financed by those countries that have contributed most to cumulative emissions. The Fund would be utilised to assist developing countries to reduce the growth of their emissions and adapt to adverse conditions resulting from already irreversible changes. </p>
<p>The kind of climate security regime that would result from these and other indispensable measures goes well beyond Bali and what is considered realistic by most under today&#8217;s conditions, but are imperative if we are to secure the conditions that support life as we know it</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>Maurice Strong is an interesting guy, ever Google him?</p>
<p>Also, you might like this GloGov (Global Governance Project) site -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.glogov.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.glogov.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Barton</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7390</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bali targets are totally unrealistic.  European countries and Cannada are no where near their Kyoto targets as it is.   China and india are rapidly increasing their CO2 production.  Some of the worst polluters did not bother to show up in Bali.  We need to get a plan.  It would be good to know how we are going to generate these reductions, before we start talking about targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bali targets are totally unrealistic.  European countries and Cannada are no where near their Kyoto targets as it is.   China and india are rapidly increasing their CO2 production.  Some of the worst polluters did not bother to show up in Bali.  We need to get a plan.  It would be good to know how we are going to generate these reductions, before we start talking about targets.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Grinzo</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/20/explaining-bali-global-warming/#comment-7386</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Grinzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Bush and his administration tried their best to do nothing--it&#039;s just another example of the &quot;hard work&quot; (as Bush is so fond of saying) that they&#039;re eager to leave for the next president.  War in Iraq?  International reputation in tatters?  Huge budget deficit?  Tens of millions of US citizens without medical coverage?  Meaningful energy policy?  Meaningful environmental policy?  Just add to the list, Bush has brush to clear on his land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Bush and his administration tried their best to do nothing&#8211;it&#8217;s just another example of the &#8220;hard work&#8221; (as Bush is so fond of saying) that they&#8217;re eager to leave for the next president.  War in Iraq?  International reputation in tatters?  Huge budget deficit?  Tens of millions of US citizens without medical coverage?  Meaningful energy policy?  Meaningful environmental policy?  Just add to the list, Bush has brush to clear on his land.</p>
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