which shows a far less convincing set dataset. From this link it is hard to see any warming since 1998. Just saying it, or in your cases, pounding your fists while saying it, dosen’t make it so.

Read through the post and several comments. What’s truly amazing in this discussion is how the original author and several of those who left comments afterward think that snotty, childish remarks like “duh,” “tinfoil hats,” and “deniers” constitute a strong, reasoned, and cogent argument. Neither side is winning converts with the constant trash talk.

This issue is supposed to be about the strength of science and reason, not religious fervor, your hurt feelings, and immaturity.

What’s amazing is that anyone can be foolish enough to think it is all about us humans. You think we live in a protective biosphere all our own and it doesn’t matter that we are destroying the environment that you suggest we adapt to.
It’s the environment that can’t adapt fast enough to what we do. If the ecosystems collapse, man is done for. The enviroment is not separate from us. That is a concept that is not understood by many who criticize environmentalists.
Whatever we do to the environment, we do to ourselves. Is that clear?

What’s truly amazing is that anyone’s gut instinct wouldn’t tell them that spewing a gas into the atmosphere to the point of upsetting the balance of gases there, would NOT have some unwanted consequences. It’s common sense, irrespective of the science.

I am. When most of Bangladesh is under water, are the Bangladeshis going to evolve to be able to breathe underwater? And will their crops do so as well? I don’t think so. Maybe they could build levees along their entire coastline, but where will they get the money to do that? They are poor, and we don’t care. The fact is that they will adapt, but they will do so by moving somewhere else. But what country wants to absorb 100 million refugees? Unfortunately, the solution to that issue will be political, not scientific. And political solutions rarely ever work. Ask yourself this: how many Bangladeshi refugees are you willing to let live in your house? Are you willing to make that adaptation? If you aren’t, than yes, adaptation will be impossible.

Are you so pessimistic on human innovation? Do you realize where science and technology was 100 years ago and where we will be when these models are predicting these ‘catastrophic’ events?
Are you afraid that adaptation isn’t possible?

I understand that it is entirely possible that your feable brain can’t comprehend the technology of the future and human’s innate ability to adapt to the environment.

I am not sure your education but based on this article I would assume you have spent no time in climate modelling. It is a very intense and complicated science that is far from perfect. You and the other alarmists assume and take these predictions as given. You are wrong.

You honestly disgust me. If you truly want to save the planet, go ahead and off yourself. That would certainly eliminate the carbon dioxide you produce daily.

The British Royal Society publicly denounced Exxon for funding 6 or 7 scientific organisations to disinform, mitigate or contradict the consensus.

Exxon said it stoped doing that and increased it’s payments to pseudo-scientific prostitutes .

The number of tornadoes as a function of time is a freightening exponential curve. There were in 1999 around 18 times more tornadoes on the US ground then in 1915. Later data was censured by Bush in 2000.

Even worst is the “Global Equivalent Intellectual Quotient” wich started to fall when G.W. H. Bush first invaded Iraq. From a record of 100 (in constant 1990 Neurones) it went down at a rate of -50 % per decade.

It is estimated that with less neurones humans could work without any gaz masks or O2 bottles in an environement of 1000 to 5000 PPMs.

What is great is that the neurones decline timing with the CO2 rise and the temperature exactly perfect to prevent perception of it’s reality thus reducing the need for disinformation budgets. Limbics brains reprogramming by Zionists leaders will also be easier to reprogram them and even raise taxes to pay fictive national debts to the private Federal Reserve in the USA and other central banks in the world.

Zionist bankers are thus teaming with petrolum companies and now weapons contractors in an effort to accelerate the SPP, NAU and NWO. Politicians find their share.

We lost 20% of the ice cap between 2006 and 2007, we hit a discontinuity in the curve and are now to the equivalent of the IPCC “pessimist” prediction for 2035.

I have heard that they “forgot” to include a little effect or 2 or 3 in their models : ice reflects 90% of the solar energy but when a portion melts water then absorbs 90% of this 1.36 Kw per square meter. Thus water temperature rose 0.6 C within a few years.

I won’t be fooled by mathematics and modeling, I have done it all my life and for me the IPCC is just under heavy pressure from their governments to pretend they are stupid.

The temperature rise in the north of Canada is fantastically fast. Permafrost is disapearing very rapidly and you will understand that it will outgas a fantastic amount of methane wich is 20 to 35 more potent then CO2 for reflecting back the infrared back to us.

The amount of lies in the numbers freigthens anybody so they simply hide the real information when they don’t cheat it. They constantly swap units and areas in order to mask the changes.

Why so much lies ? Is it a sign that the elders in power think they can sustain a lie because changes will be so fast that we will die before we can guess it ?

Many of the paid disinformation agents are the same who lied for the tobacco industry. All these liars share one thing : a profit for wars and human disappearance from the surface of the earth to be replaced by a Zionist elite totally unconcerned about the “inferior” humans.

Some say we are at 394 ppm of CO2, some say 385, some 394 ppm CO2e… I am willing to bet we will bust 400 ppm much sooner then any prediction. If I apply the usual error factor it could even be in 2008.

The truth is that there is no truth. Truth became a comodity and was bought by a monopole of liars to destroy what was left of it.

96% of the medias are controlled by 6 or 7 zionists, right ?

The co2 sensitivity I try to give people is that at this website:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-sensitivity.htm

Frankly I haven’t followed the discussion that sorts all that out, and I don’t want to spend all the time that does it would take to sort it out. I pretty much accept the idea that we have to reduce co2 as well as the other human caused greenhouse gases emissions and leave the heavy lifting to the big boys.