Comments on: Chapter Nine Excerpt: The U.S.-China Suicide Pact on Climate http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:23:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8189 David B. Benson Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:43:13 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8189 "richest nation in the world": Depends upon the measure. Per capita income might be quite a bit higher in some of the oil-producing nations. And what other country has a nation debt like ours? “richest nation in the world”: Depends upon the measure. Per capita income might be quite a bit higher in some of the oil-producing nations. And what other country has a nation debt like ours?

]]> By: RhapsodyInGlue http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8195 RhapsodyInGlue Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:48:01 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8195 It would seem that to be at all effective, either a global cap system must be put in place or countries/regions with caps must be allowed to cap/tax the embedded carbon in imports. Without such schemes it would seem a cap in the U.S. would just force ever more production to those countries without caps. It's one thing to have export driven development overseas because of inherent relative advantage in certain industries, but it's quite another to systematically create a situation that favors rapid building of coal fired plants in China to create goods that are probably relatively energy inefficient and then use more energy to ship them half way around the world. It would seem that to be at all effective, either a global cap system must be put in place or countries/regions with caps must be allowed to cap/tax the embedded carbon in imports. Without such schemes it would seem a cap in the U.S. would just force ever more production to those countries without caps. It’s one thing to have export driven development overseas because of inherent relative advantage in certain industries, but it’s quite another to systematically create a situation that favors rapid building of coal fired plants in China to create goods that are probably relatively energy inefficient and then use more energy to ship them half way around the world.

]]> By: Jay Alt http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8204 Jay Alt Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:50:19 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8204 <i>half way around the world</i> or across the Atlantic . . . Barroso trade threat on climate http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7201835.stm half way around the world

or across the Atlantic . . .

Barroso trade threat on climate
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7201835.stm

]]> By: ming http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8495 ming Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:07:32 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/01/21/chapter-nine-excerpt-the-us-china-suicide-pact-on-climate-2/#comment-8495 you said:"While China’s CO2 emissions might well exceed ours by 2010, its cumulative emissions might not surpass ours until after 2050." do you have any more specific number to prove the point that China's cumulative emissions might not surpass ours until after 2050? please send them to me if you have, thanks you said:”While China’s CO2 emissions might well exceed ours by 2010, its cumulative emissions might not surpass ours until after 2050.”
do you have any more specific number to prove the point that China’s cumulative emissions might not surpass ours until after 2050? please send them to me if you have, thanks

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