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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-8992</link>
		<author>Joe</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think your are full of crock for believing for what many scientists also believe is not true. They are just as many scientists who disbelieve that theory. It's just a theory and anyone can be just as right as the other in believing what they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your are full of crock for believing for what many scientists also believe is not true. They are just as many scientists who disbelieve that theory. It&#8217;s just a theory and anyone can be just as right as the other in believing what they want.</p>
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		<title>By: jcwinnie</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-8993</link>
		<author>jcwinnie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Kimchi Joe-
Sort of like the theory of evolution or a theory about gravity, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kimchi Joe-<br />
Sort of like the theory of evolution or a theory about gravity, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: CMann</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-8995</link>
		<author>CMann</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>First commenter Joe seems to be the perfect GM employee or customer.  On second thought, is he a GM board member?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First commenter Joe seems to be the perfect GM employee or customer.  On second thought, is he a GM board member?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Mom</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-8996</link>
		<author>Mr.Mom</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey this post is classified as humor, so that comment fit right in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey this post is classified as humor, so that comment fit right in.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorghum Crow</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-8999</link>
		<author>Sorghum Crow</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-8999</guid>
					<description>Ah the old "it's just a theory" crock. Joe (not Romm) above must not have been paying attention when theory was defined.

How do these denyers manage to be the first commenters so often? Don't they have anything better to do than sit around and wait for new blog entries? I guess I shouldn't complain; at least they're not driving around in their SUVs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the old &#8220;it&#8217;s just a theory&#8221; crock. Joe (not Romm) above must not have been paying attention when theory was defined.</p>
<p>How do these denyers manage to be the first commenters so often? Don&#8217;t they have anything better to do than sit around and wait for new blog entries? I guess I shouldn&#8217;t complain; at least they&#8217;re not driving around in their SUVs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-9004</link>
		<author>Ronald</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-9004</guid>
					<description>We can criticize the chairman of GM, but the stress over there must be enormous.   GM lost 38 billion dollars last year.   That he would try to get some favor from the global warming is not man-made crowd is somewhat understandable.   I don’t envy his job and I don’t envy people who have to make the decision between an income or livelihood for my family and working in an industry that is polluting the planet.  This global warming thing runs thru so much of everything we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can criticize the chairman of GM, but the stress over there must be enormous.   GM lost 38 billion dollars last year.   That he would try to get some favor from the global warming is not man-made crowd is somewhat understandable.   I don’t envy his job and I don’t envy people who have to make the decision between an income or livelihood for my family and working in an industry that is polluting the planet.  This global warming thing runs thru so much of everything we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-9021</link>
		<author>Paul K</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-9021</guid>
					<description>General Motors is the American leader in clean car technologies. They produce a widening array of quality hybrid and flex fuel vehicles. They are heavily invested in plug-in development. No car company other than Toyota can match its positive achievements. They are as committed as you to carbon free transportation. Yet, you vilify them because the reason for their commitment differs from yours. To you it is a matter of global warming. For GM it is economic survival. The desired end result is the same and you will reach that result much faster if you abandon the divisive negativity and find areas of shared interest to work together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Motors is the American leader in clean car technologies. They produce a widening array of quality hybrid and flex fuel vehicles. They are heavily invested in plug-in development. No car company other than Toyota can match its positive achievements. They are as committed as you to carbon free transportation. Yet, you vilify them because the reason for their commitment differs from yours. To you it is a matter of global warming. For GM it is economic survival. The desired end result is the same and you will reach that result much faster if you abandon the divisive negativity and find areas of shared interest to work together.</p>
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		<title>By: CMann</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-9038</link>
		<author>CMann</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-9038</guid>
					<description>You want "areas of shared interest to work together"?  The GM Vice Chair didn't exactly show that with his bone-headed remarks.  Why are you defending him, given your standard?  What about asking him to abandon his "divisive negativity"?  We little people aren't nearly so powerful and influential, but swing away if it makes you feel better.  

OK, I'll give them this:  Many people believe GM (finally) is truly serious and committed to the green car cause, whatever its motive.  While there is good reason to stay skeptical, given its history and Lutz's comments, I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt.  I really hope so, for the benfit of the consumer, the planet, and GM itself.  If the Volt or plug-in Vue is close to meeting expectations and I can afford one, I'll eagerly buy a new one as soon as possible.

But in fairness, one parting swing that I think GM deserves.  In addition to its sorry history (EV-1, etc.), last I checked GM still ranks dead last in fleet MPG, no matter how you spin it.  And the flex fuel feature is OK for flexibility on down the line, but does nothing for greenness in the present or near term, and is very possibly a net environmental detriment in the long term.  

If GM fails, the blame won't fall on bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want &#8220;areas of shared interest to work together&#8221;?  The GM Vice Chair didn&#8217;t exactly show that with his bone-headed remarks.  Why are you defending him, given your standard?  What about asking him to abandon his &#8220;divisive negativity&#8221;?  We little people aren&#8217;t nearly so powerful and influential, but swing away if it makes you feel better.  </p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;ll give them this:  Many people believe GM (finally) is truly serious and committed to the green car cause, whatever its motive.  While there is good reason to stay skeptical, given its history and Lutz&#8217;s comments, I&#8217;m willing to give them the benefit of doubt.  I really hope so, for the benfit of the consumer, the planet, and GM itself.  If the Volt or plug-in Vue is close to meeting expectations and I can afford one, I&#8217;ll eagerly buy a new one as soon as possible.</p>
<p>But in fairness, one parting swing that I think GM deserves.  In addition to its sorry history (EV-1, etc.), last I checked GM still ranks dead last in fleet MPG, no matter how you spin it.  And the flex fuel feature is OK for flexibility on down the line, but does nothing for greenness in the present or near term, and is very possibly a net environmental detriment in the long term.  </p>
<p>If GM fails, the blame won&#8217;t fall on bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-14615</link>
		<author>Josh</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/27/general-motors-is-full-of-crocks/#comment-14615</guid>
					<description>I wish that I didn't know how to us my brain like most of yall. So when some guy said global warming is real and he made a movie about it i just accepted what he told me as gospel. It must be true he made a movie everything in movies is real right? o yeah forget that pretty much every scientist believes that Al Gore's theory is wrong, and that the majority of scientist think that the earth goes through warm and cold periods and that right now we're coming up on the end of the current warm period. I live in new mexico and we just had the coldest winter since they've been keeping records, and this summer we aren't even coming close to the record temps. that by the way were set in 1943 where there was alot less pollution and carbon monoxide in the world. All you people who just take what someone tells you and believes with weighing all the evidence please explain to me why is its only 66 out in New Mexico in the middle of June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that I didn&#8217;t know how to us my brain like most of yall. So when some guy said global warming is real and he made a movie about it i just accepted what he told me as gospel. It must be true he made a movie everything in movies is real right? o yeah forget that pretty much every scientist believes that Al Gore&#8217;s theory is wrong, and that the majority of scientist think that the earth goes through warm and cold periods and that right now we&#8217;re coming up on the end of the current warm period. I live in new mexico and we just had the coldest winter since they&#8217;ve been keeping records, and this summer we aren&#8217;t even coming close to the record temps. that by the way were set in 1943 where there was alot less pollution and carbon monoxide in the world. All you people who just take what someone tells you and believes with weighing all the evidence please explain to me why is its only 66 out in New Mexico in the middle of June.</p>
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