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	<title>Comments on: Novak:  VP-hopeful Pawlenty fails energy/climate conservative litmus test</title>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-8997</link>
		<author>Ronald</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I read in ‘The Onion’ the best one line answer of why the conservative republicans don’t like about McCain.    ‘The Onion’ is a satire/comedy newspaper/magazine that has hilarious articles in it of made up news, but that does has commentary value just like Stewart and Colbert have on their Comedy Channel shows.  

Anyway the paper listed a number of funny reasons and the last reason conservatives don’t like McCain is because ‘McCain is soft on hate.’    That’s the truest line I’ve heard in a long time.   Many of the conservative commentators make their living on getting people to hate something and what better thing to hate than the United Nations and then the IPCC report and a bunch of people who want to take their fossil fuels away from them.    And then John McCain comes along and says we should listen to the IPCC and the UN, conservative talk show jocks have about had a cow over that.   

McCain is soft on hate.   How could he ever get the conservative endorsement .   He’s got an uphill battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in ‘The Onion’ the best one line answer of why the conservative republicans don’t like about McCain.    ‘The Onion’ is a satire/comedy newspaper/magazine that has hilarious articles in it of made up news, but that does has commentary value just like Stewart and Colbert have on their Comedy Channel shows.  </p>
<p>Anyway the paper listed a number of funny reasons and the last reason conservatives don’t like McCain is because ‘McCain is soft on hate.’    That’s the truest line I’ve heard in a long time.   Many of the conservative commentators make their living on getting people to hate something and what better thing to hate than the United Nations and then the IPCC report and a bunch of people who want to take their fossil fuels away from them.    And then John McCain comes along and says we should listen to the IPCC and the UN, conservative talk show jocks have about had a cow over that.   </p>
<p>McCain is soft on hate.   How could he ever get the conservative endorsement .   He’s got an uphill battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9030</link>
		<author>Hal</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Let's face it. Our two-party (so-called) democracy simply doesn't work well. And Nader shouldn't try to fix it, again. 

The problem is more fundamental. It has to do with the populous' (and talk show hosts') preference for black and white answers to questions about complex issues that have uncertainty in the known knowns and known unknowns and that also have many unknown unknowns.  

Do you think all the supposed interest in and excitement about the coming Presidential election will get more than half the eligible voters to the polls? Why not?

What's your number one issue? Would you sacrifice your number two and three priority issues to have a candidate who supported your views on the number one issue? Let's say issues number one, two, and three are economy (stupid), war, and climate change. Did I get your issue? You mean you don't care about having a job, how much tax you have to pay, whether you can get or afford health care, the quality of education for your child(ren), or whether you can afford the house, car, or vacation that you strongly desire? Am I getting the point across yet?

Have you ever worked in a group that was formed as a coalition of purportedly like-minded or logically-connected one-issue-oriented groups? Organizing against the Vietnam War in the late 60s and early 70s, I found myself in such contexts often. Everyone wanted to add their issue as number 2 right after stopping the war. Labor, feminists, farmworkers' rights, minority issues, gay rights (this was in Berkeley and San Francisco), ... I can't even remember them all, there were so many. There were no simple answers. And I still don't believe that WE stopped the war, although many of my allies from those years said that they believe we did when we talked about during our marches to demonstrate against the invasion of Iraq earlier this decade.

OK. so what does this have to do with climate change, you ask. Would you vote for McCain if he and his running mate had a better position on climate change than the Dem nominee? In spite of his commitment to 100 years more in Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it. Our two-party (so-called) democracy simply doesn&#8217;t work well. And Nader shouldn&#8217;t try to fix it, again. </p>
<p>The problem is more fundamental. It has to do with the populous&#8217; (and talk show hosts&#8217;) preference for black and white answers to questions about complex issues that have uncertainty in the known knowns and known unknowns and that also have many unknown unknowns.  </p>
<p>Do you think all the supposed interest in and excitement about the coming Presidential election will get more than half the eligible voters to the polls? Why not?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your number one issue? Would you sacrifice your number two and three priority issues to have a candidate who supported your views on the number one issue? Let&#8217;s say issues number one, two, and three are economy (stupid), war, and climate change. Did I get your issue? You mean you don&#8217;t care about having a job, how much tax you have to pay, whether you can get or afford health care, the quality of education for your child(ren), or whether you can afford the house, car, or vacation that you strongly desire? Am I getting the point across yet?</p>
<p>Have you ever worked in a group that was formed as a coalition of purportedly like-minded or logically-connected one-issue-oriented groups? Organizing against the Vietnam War in the late 60s and early 70s, I found myself in such contexts often. Everyone wanted to add their issue as number 2 right after stopping the war. Labor, feminists, farmworkers&#8217; rights, minority issues, gay rights (this was in Berkeley and San Francisco), &#8230; I can&#8217;t even remember them all, there were so many. There were no simple answers. And I still don&#8217;t believe that WE stopped the war, although many of my allies from those years said that they believe we did when we talked about during our marches to demonstrate against the invasion of Iraq earlier this decade.</p>
<p>OK. so what does this have to do with climate change, you ask. Would you vote for McCain if he and his running mate had a better position on climate change than the Dem nominee? In spite of his commitment to 100 years more in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9034</link>
		<author>Paul K</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9034</guid>
					<description>McCain and his running mate will have a better position on climate change. John McCain has made no commitment to 100 years more in Iraq. He was asked if Americans might be in Iraq in ten years and he said yes and hypothetically 20 or even a hundred. You may note we have been in Japan and Germany for 60 years, Korea for over 50 and Cuba longer than both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain and his running mate will have a better position on climate change. John McCain has made no commitment to 100 years more in Iraq. He was asked if Americans might be in Iraq in ten years and he said yes and hypothetically 20 or even a hundred. You may note we have been in Japan and Germany for 60 years, Korea for over 50 and Cuba longer than both.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Romm</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9039</link>
		<author>Dave Romm</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9039</guid>
					<description>Pawlenty is my governor, and he's infamous for kowtowing to the "no new taxes" crowd, letting Minnesota's infrastructure and education system suffer so a few greedy hypocrites could buy shinier gas-guzzlers.  I'm even skeptical of Novak's claim that Pawlenty is greener than most radical conservatives:  He has a terrible track record on the environment.

McCain is the divisive candidate in this election.  Let's hope he splits the GOP into tiny pieces.  If making Pawlenty a fellow sacrificial lamb drives the right wing even away from reality, so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pawlenty is my governor, and he&#8217;s infamous for kowtowing to the &#8220;no new taxes&#8221; crowd, letting Minnesota&#8217;s infrastructure and education system suffer so a few greedy hypocrites could buy shinier gas-guzzlers.  I&#8217;m even skeptical of Novak&#8217;s claim that Pawlenty is greener than most radical conservatives:  He has a terrible track record on the environment.</p>
<p>McCain is the divisive candidate in this election.  Let&#8217;s hope he splits the GOP into tiny pieces.  If making Pawlenty a fellow sacrificial lamb drives the right wing even away from reality, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9040</link>
		<author>Paul K</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9040</guid>
					<description>So far the divisive candidate has been Clinton, but she may be not long for the race. The right wing will get behind McCain on issues of national security, life, guns and taxes. His problem is with nativists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far the divisive candidate has been Clinton, but she may be not long for the race. The right wing will get behind McCain on issues of national security, life, guns and taxes. His problem is with nativists.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Alt</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9044</link>
		<author>Jay Alt</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/28/novak-vp-hopeful-pawlenty-fails-energyclimate-conservative-litmus-test/#comment-9044</guid>
					<description>Here's a link to the NGA and the meeting: 

http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.b14a675ba7f89cf9e8ebb856a11010a0

The main theme, promoted by Gov. Pawlenty (and Selebius), was 'Securing a Clean Energy Future'
(click on CFL icon).  Announcing that initiative was his first act as new chairman for 07-08.  

http://www.nga.org/Files/pdf/07PAWLENTYBROCHURE.PDF

Scary Ideas for Paleozoic Pols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the NGA and the meeting: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.b14a675ba7f89cf9e8ebb856a11010a0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nga.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>portal/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>site/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>nga/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>menuitem.b14a675ba7f89cf9e8ebb856a11010a0</a></p>
<p>The main theme, promoted by Gov. Pawlenty (and Selebius), was &#8216;Securing a Clean Energy Future&#8217;<br />
(click on CFL icon).  Announcing that initiative was his first act as new chairman for 07-08.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nga.org/Files/pdf/07PAWLENTYBROCHURE.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.nga.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>Files/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>pdf/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>07PAWLENTYBROCHURE.PDF</a></p>
<p>Scary Ideas for Paleozoic Pols.</p>
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