Comments on: Hansen throws cold water on cooling climate claim

By: Cynthia

Cynthia — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:13:41 +0000

One way to keep the climate stable, Beefeater, IS FOR PEOPLE TO STOP EATING BEEF! Grazing cattle– destroying the rain forests, growing soy beans for cattle, and methane from cow poop, is a huge contributer to global warming! It’s bad for our health, bad for the animals, and AWFUL for the climate! Get over your beef-eating and you stop a big portion of climate problem!

By: seslialmanya

seslialmanya — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:38:19 +0000

Some scientists are warning that this void of sunspot activity will cool the earth to such a degree that global warming will look like a drop in the bucket. Despite this, reports continue to circulate perporting that global warming is on an accelerated pace (species are A while back there was a post regarding “deniers” who think their ideas are novel and that everyone ’someday’ will realize what they thought, was right all along. I applaud you to reference Wegner, but for every Wegner, there was a 100 others with novel

By: görüntülü chat

görüntülü chat — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:11:00 +0000

Some scientists are warning that this void of sunspot activity will cool the earth to such a degree that global warming will look like a drop in the bucket. Despite this, reports continue to circulate perporting that global warming is on an accelerated pace (species are threatened, the Arctic is melting, etc). Certainly only time will tell, but I believe the global warming theory will evaporate over time — much like the fears about Y2K.

By: sesli chat

sesli chat — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:15:17 +0000

A while back there was a post regarding “deniers” who think their ideas are novel and that everyone ’someday’ will realize what they thought, was right all along. I applaud you to reference Wegner, but for every Wegner, there was a 100 others with novel ideas, which are still…well…wrong! As far as you ’settled’ theory goes, you’re arguing semantics. Most here know what the scientific process involves.

By: amd

amd — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:30:42 +0000

Dave,

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:55:58 +0000

You are correct, Mark – they won’t go down quietly – it will take some time.

The anti-Plate Tectonics folks would not release their hold on power until 50 years had passed… Poor Alfred Wegner, the brilliant originator of Plate Tectonics, died before his theory become standard science and was seen by most as a “denier” of their “well established theories” of giant submerged land bridges connecting the continents… If I am to be smeared with the “denier” label, I wear it proudly, like Wegner did a mere 90 years ago.

I absolutely disagree with C02 driving the climate – ludicrous! To dismiss the sun? Such chutzpah! And beyond arrogance.
Carbon is a fantastic gift that increases crop yields worldwide and is no more a ‘pollutant’ than sunlight or air! Settled science? If it’s settled, it ain’t science, it’s propaganda. Or politics…

Humans do a lot of damage – heck, I’m for Nuclear power plants and against Coal because of MERCURY that is a by-product of coal-powered stations. No need to fight against imaginary threats, we’ve got tons and tons of actual problems – that’s where we need to tackle the REAL demons.

But I can see it’s far, far too late for rational thought – somebody get a rope! Hang the industrialized countries, quick, before anyone questions!!

By: mark

mark — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:17:50 +0000

Interestingly, the lack of sunspot activity in the new cycle has caused the world to cool 0.7 degree Celsius in only one year (Jan 2007 to Jan 2008). Some scientists are warning that this void of sunspot activity will cool the earth to such a degree that global warming will look like a drop in the bucket. Despite this, reports continue to circulate perporting that global warming is on an accelerated pace (species are threatened, the Arctic is melting, etc). Certainly only time will tell, but I believe the global warming theory will evaporate over time — much like the fears about Y2K. You can be sure, however, that global warmers won’t go down without a fight. They have accumulated far too much money and power to quietly hand it back.

By: richard schumacher

richard schumacher — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:30:07 +0000

In summary: La Nina does not stop global warming. La Nina merely exposes cold deep ocean water, which absorbs heat and temporarily slows or stops atmospheric temperature increase. When La Nina stops atmospheric temperature increase resumes.

By: Larry Coleman

Larry Coleman — Thu, 15 May 2008 01:26:08 +0000

Frank says, “This means, the first 20 ppm CO2 in the atmosphere gives around 1,4 degrees celsius greenhouse warming. If you raise the concentration from 20ppm to 40 ppm, the additional warming is only 0,3 degrees. And the human made increase from 280ppm t0 380ppm can physically only create an additional warming of 0,1 degrees.”

This is a common misconception. CO2 is not saturated where it counts: in the upper atmosphere. CO2 raises the surface temperature, not by absorbing IR from the surface (all of which is absorbed), but by absorbing IR about seven miles up. Increasing CO2 increases the altitude where IR is able to escape; i.e., it raises the tropopause. An increase in surface temperature follows from the lapse rate.

The point is that at an altitude of seven miles there is very little CO2 so it is nowhere near saturation. The last ppm of CO2 has almost as much effect as the first ppm

By: JKB

JKB — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:51:29 +0000

The only problem that I have with Hansen’s explanation, is that he is quick to point to this little temporary La Nina, but completely dismisses that El Ninos have played a great role in proping temperatures up for the last 10 years.

Much of the average for the 2007 year is contributed by an El Nino warmed Janurary 2007. Comparing GISS monthly L-S data to CPC ENSO data, we find that temperatures warmed from -0.7 to +0.4 (borderline el nino conditions) between 1-01 and 4-02. No consequence, temps rose right along with it. El Nino or near El Nino conditions remained in tact from 4-02 all the way through 2-07, with the exeption of a short dip during the last of 05/beginning of 06 (in which temps fell, but then went right back up with the full blown El Nino of the later half of 06 into 07).

It seems to me that all you people arguing over this climate stuff engage in nothing but a bunch of hand waving, cherry picking perspectives to support your own cause, when in reality, half the arguments made are just as good arguments for both sides.