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	<title>Comments on: Campaign stunner:  McCain &#8220;might take [new CAFE standards] off the books&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Rick C</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/03/23/campaign-stunner-mccain-might-take-new-cafe-standards-off-the-books/#comment-17869</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Says: 

March 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pm 
Another post to tear down McCain.

McCain is for signing Kyoto.

McCain against drilling in ANWR. 

McCain against drilling off the coast of florida.

McCain in michigan took a lot of heat for being for cafe standards. Romney pounded him on it.

Who cares what his economic adviser said. He isn’t his enviornmental adviser. He said he would leave the current cafe standards.

McCain has even said he wants to increase them.

McCain has hundreds of advisers. Enough already with the smearing of McCain.


Shouldn&#039;t McCain be sued regarding his stated support for renewable energy in those political ads under truth in labeling laws?

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  Where are the links?  McCain can make stuff up, but commenters on this blog need facts.&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Says: </p>
<p>March 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pm<br />
Another post to tear down McCain.</p>
<p>McCain is for signing Kyoto.</p>
<p>McCain against drilling in ANWR. </p>
<p>McCain against drilling off the coast of florida.</p>
<p>McCain in michigan took a lot of heat for being for cafe standards. Romney pounded him on it.</p>
<p>Who cares what his economic adviser said. He isn’t his enviornmental adviser. He said he would leave the current cafe standards.</p>
<p>McCain has even said he wants to increase them.</p>
<p>McCain has hundreds of advisers. Enough already with the smearing of McCain.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t McCain be sued regarding his stated support for renewable energy in those political ads under truth in labeling laws?</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  Where are the links?  McCain can make stuff up, but commenters on this blog need facts.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou Grinzo &amp; Joe --- Thanks for the laughs, giggles and chortles. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou Grinzo &amp; Joe &#8212; Thanks for the laughs, giggles and chortles. <img src='http://climateprogress.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, in my field, you guys are the equivalent of ... well, economists!
Sorry again.  I actually did the MIT equivalent of a minor in economics, so I know just enough to be dangerous to myself.
You are certainly correct that being a non-economist is no guarantee of wisdom on this matter (but it helps -- sorry, again, couldn&#039;t resist).
Actually, Some of my favorite people in this area are economists, like Skip Laitner, and Bob Repetto, and, of course, Herman Daly.  But, of course, &quot;real economists&quot; don&#039;t like them, so there you go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, in my field, you guys are the equivalent of &#8230; well, economists!<br />
Sorry again.  I actually did the MIT equivalent of a minor in economics, so I know just enough to be dangerous to myself.<br />
You are certainly correct that being a non-economist is no guarantee of wisdom on this matter (but it helps &#8212; sorry, again, couldn&#8217;t resist).<br />
Actually, Some of my favorite people in this area are economists, like Skip Laitner, and Bob Repetto, and, of course, Herman Daly.  But, of course, &#8220;real economists&#8221; don&#8217;t like them, so there you go!</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Grinzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Grinzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One nano-nit, Joe, about your comment:

&quot;The fact that this guy is a former director of the Congressional Budget Office means, of course, he is an economist, which is perhaps all you need to know about him.&quot;

Speaking as a card-carrying economist who works full time (for less income than I&#039;d care to admit) writing and speaking about energy and environmental issues, might I please ask you to lighten up on economists?  Honestly, we do know a few things about that whole allocation of scarce resources thing, we&#039;re not all morons, and most of us don&#039;t dress like Darth Vader when we&#039;re online.  (Note to self: Check to make sure web cam is off.)

Seriously, I find it amazing how economists have become everyone&#039;s punching bag in the e+e arena when we have scores of non-economists online opinion endlessly on economic matters and all too often getting things hysterically wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One nano-nit, Joe, about your comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact that this guy is a former director of the Congressional Budget Office means, of course, he is an economist, which is perhaps all you need to know about him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking as a card-carrying economist who works full time (for less income than I&#8217;d care to admit) writing and speaking about energy and environmental issues, might I please ask you to lighten up on economists?  Honestly, we do know a few things about that whole allocation of scarce resources thing, we&#8217;re not all morons, and most of us don&#8217;t dress like Darth Vader when we&#8217;re online.  (Note to self: Check to make sure web cam is off.)</p>
<p>Seriously, I find it amazing how economists have become everyone&#8217;s punching bag in the e+e arena when we have scores of non-economists online opinion endlessly on economic matters and all too often getting things hysterically wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:  You shouldn&#039;t &quot;wonder&quot; about things that are easily fact-checked.  This blog is well within its rights to criticize anyone in any party -- even one up for election -- on the issues it focuses on.  I try to make clear my analysis isn&#039;t Democrat vs Republican -- there are lots of good GOP&#039;ers I blog on (like Arnold).  It is conservative vs. progressive.

And I&#039;m sorry this friggin&#039; spam slips through.  I try to be vigilant and delete it as fast as I see it.  I&#039;ll see about a filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:  You shouldn&#8217;t &#8220;wonder&#8221; about things that are easily fact-checked.  This blog is well within its rights to criticize anyone in any party &#8212; even one up for election &#8212; on the issues it focuses on.  I try to make clear my analysis isn&#8217;t Democrat vs Republican &#8212; there are lots of good GOP&#8217;ers I blog on (like Arnold).  It is conservative vs. progressive.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry this friggin&#8217; spam slips through.  I try to be vigilant and delete it as fast as I see it.  I&#8217;ll see about a filter.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder about the propriety of a subsidiary of a non partisan think tank engaging in negative political attacks on individual candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about the propriety of a subsidiary of a non partisan think tank engaging in negative political attacks on individual candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason:
Hmm.  I wonder who you&#039;ll be voting for.

Yes, McCain is the best of the GOP candidates, by far, on this one issue.  But 1) this isn&#039;t the first time McCain has been wishy washy on climate issues recently and 2) McCain chose this very senior economist to speak for him on energy/climate matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:<br />
Hmm.  I wonder who you&#8217;ll be voting for.</p>
<p>Yes, McCain is the best of the GOP candidates, by far, on this one issue.  But 1) this isn&#8217;t the first time McCain has been wishy washy on climate issues recently and 2) McCain chose this very senior economist to speak for him on energy/climate matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, my post above was meant for another post! (look before you leap) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, my post above was meant for another post! (look before you leap) <img src='http://climateprogress.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Joe.   and just to underline:   

Hansen is not just the most credible person out there, he&#039;s the U.S. Government&#039;s official authority on the subject.      

Bush may choose to undermine the deadly serious statements of the professionals working for him - but why do others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Joe.   and just to underline:   </p>
<p>Hansen is not just the most credible person out there, he&#8217;s the U.S. Government&#8217;s official authority on the subject.      </p>
<p>Bush may choose to undermine the deadly serious statements of the professionals working for him &#8211; but why do others?</p>
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