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	<title>Comments on: Stern admits report &#8220;badly underestimated&#8221; climate change risks</title>
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		<title>By: John Mashey</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11237</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mashey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, Albert, dano:
Is this the right blog to fill with refutations like this of climate basics?
Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, Albert, dano:<br />
Is this the right blog to fill with refutations like this of climate basics?<br />
Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Dano</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11146</link>
		<dc:creator>Dano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you are just going to start making things up why should we bother reading anything you write?  &lt;/i&gt;

You know a commenter is onto something when they mention Algore. Pffft. They can&#039;t keep away from the key phrases that get them going, can they?

Best,

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you are just going to start making things up why should we bother reading anything you write?  </i></p>
<p>You know a commenter is onto something when they mention Algore. Pffft. They can&#8217;t keep away from the key phrases that get them going, can they?</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11135</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Taylor 

&quot;The ice cao [sic] at the North pole is back thicker than before.&quot;

If you are just going to start making things up why should we bother reading anything you write?  

I&#039;ll give you a reference on north polar ice, here:
http://climateprogress.org/2008/03/19/noaanasansidc-arctic-ice-is-alarmingly-scarce-and-thin/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Taylor </p>
<p>&#8220;The ice cao [sic] at the North pole is back thicker than before.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are just going to start making things up why should we bother reading anything you write?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you a reference on north polar ice, here:<br />
<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/03/19/noaanasansidc-arctic-ice-is-alarmingly-scarce-and-thin/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>03/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>19/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>noaanasansidc-arctic-ice-is-alarmingly-scarce-and-thin/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11124</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Taylor --- Here are the ten-year average global temperatures since 1850 CE:

http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/10yave.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Taylor &#8212; Here are the ten-year average global temperatures since 1850 CE:</p>
<p><a href="http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/10yave.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/10yave.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: valikor</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11117</link>
		<dc:creator>valikor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former scientist trained in chemistry and physics, I had experience with chaotic systems. I used to think that  high perturbations is a good and fast way to explosive behaviors and reactions... Non-linear systems should be treated with wariness..
Especially when you have some inertie... which is the case we have here... 

Congratulations for your blog, book and success, keep up the good work!

Valikor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former scientist trained in chemistry and physics, I had experience with chaotic systems. I used to think that  high perturbations is a good and fast way to explosive behaviors and reactions&#8230; Non-linear systems should be treated with wariness..<br />
Especially when you have some inertie&#8230; which is the case we have here&#8230; </p>
<p>Congratulations for your blog, book and success, keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Valikor</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11113</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stern mentioned that he had underestimated climate change in his January 4, 2008 Ely Lecture:

http://www.occ.gov.uk/activities/stern_papers/Ely%20lecture%2020.12.2007%20no%20notes.pdf

He also mentioned this in a submission (with Cameron Hepburn) to the Garnaut Climate Change Review:

http://www.garnautreview.org.au/CA25734E0016A131/WebObj/LetterfromProfLordNicholasSternandDrCameronHepburnonProdCommWP/$File/Letter%20from%20Prof%20Lord%20Nicholas%20Stern%20and%20Dr%20Cameron%20Hepburn%20on%20ProdCommWP.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stern mentioned that he had underestimated climate change in his January 4, 2008 Ely Lecture:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.occ.gov.uk/activities/stern_papers/Ely%20lecture%2020.12.2007%20no%20notes.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.occ.gov.uk/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>activities/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>stern_papers/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>Ely%20lecture%2020.12.2007%20no%20notes.pdf</a></p>
<p>He also mentioned this in a submission (with Cameron Hepburn) to the Garnaut Climate Change Review:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.garnautreview.org.au/CA25734E0016A131/WebObj/LetterfromProfLordNicholasSternandDrCameronHepburnonProdCommWP/$File/Letter%20from%20Prof%20Lord%20Nicholas%20Stern%20and%20Dr%20Cameron%20Hepburn%20on%20ProdCommWP.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.garnautreview.org.au/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>CA25734E0016A131/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>WebObj/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>LetterfromProfLordNicholasSternandDrCameronHepburnonProdCommWP/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>$File/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>Letter%20from%20Prof%20Lord%20Nicholas%20Stern%20and%20Dr%20Cameron%20Hepburn%20on%20ProdCommWP.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: William Taylor</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/17/stern-admits-report-badly-underestimated-climate-change-risks/#comment-11112</link>
		<dc:creator>William Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its getting increasing hard to understand this global warming thing. The pacific Ocean for the last two years hasn&#039;t had a El nino in the north during the summer months, The pacific ocean in the summer has actually cooled some according to NOAA. The ice cao at the North pole is back thicker than before. The last two years we have a 150% snow fall on mount Rainier, China, Viet Nam, record snow fall, Acroos our Northern states, last two years, record snow fall, so much that the lower Missippi river flooded this year. Swallows dying migrating to Europe this year, why, no food, they eat flying bugs, the hatches haven&#039;t happened yet, to cold. So where is all this global Warming? Snowed here in Western Wshington up to seven inches in one day at sea level on the East side of the Olympic National Park, and here in Summner we had around 2 inches. Tday is April 17th and the forecast for Sat and Sun is possible snow, in April? Glbal Warming? Or cooling? I only see what I see. One group of sceintists say the sun spots have cycled through and are now over for another 12 years, so the earth will cool. Who is right? I still think we need to clean up the air either way but I wonder if Mr Gore had anything to do with the global warming report so his investments would even grow more in the companies he has already invested in. When he left the VP of this country he sure wasn&#039;t woth a 100 million, he is now. Explain away all the snow and cold weather, I may listen to the hype some more. That goes for you to Mr. Stern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its getting increasing hard to understand this global warming thing. The pacific Ocean for the last two years hasn&#8217;t had a El nino in the north during the summer months, The pacific ocean in the summer has actually cooled some according to NOAA. The ice cao at the North pole is back thicker than before. The last two years we have a 150% snow fall on mount Rainier, China, Viet Nam, record snow fall, Acroos our Northern states, last two years, record snow fall, so much that the lower Missippi river flooded this year. Swallows dying migrating to Europe this year, why, no food, they eat flying bugs, the hatches haven&#8217;t happened yet, to cold. So where is all this global Warming? Snowed here in Western Wshington up to seven inches in one day at sea level on the East side of the Olympic National Park, and here in Summner we had around 2 inches. Tday is April 17th and the forecast for Sat and Sun is possible snow, in April? Glbal Warming? Or cooling? I only see what I see. One group of sceintists say the sun spots have cycled through and are now over for another 12 years, so the earth will cool. Who is right? I still think we need to clean up the air either way but I wonder if Mr Gore had anything to do with the global warming report so his investments would even grow more in the companies he has already invested in. When he left the VP of this country he sure wasn&#8217;t woth a 100 million, he is now. Explain away all the snow and cold weather, I may listen to the hype some more. That goes for you to Mr. Stern.</p>
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