Comments on: Is 450 ppm (or less) politically possible? Part 2: The Solution http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:52:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kevin Matthews, ArchitectureWeek http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-97033 Kevin Matthews, ArchitectureWeek Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:21:41 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-97033 I suspect a solid case can be made for a wedge of reduced vehicles miles traveled (VMT), providing carbon savings in reducing both transportation fuel consumption and roadway infrastructure costs. VMT can be reduced first and foremost through improved land use, capitalizing on the inherent geography of VMT in and around metropolitan areas, as Oregon pre-visioned and California has started to legislate. A range of other techniques will contribute. Like other base level consumption reductions, and unlike fuel substitutions, the savings multiply through the system. So I'll trade you a wedge of savings through reduced VMT for a wedge of cellulosic biofuels, which are still increasingly dubious as to actual net carbon savings. I suspect a solid case can be made for a wedge of reduced vehicles miles traveled (VMT), providing carbon savings in reducing both transportation fuel consumption and roadway infrastructure costs.

VMT can be reduced first and foremost through improved land use, capitalizing on the inherent geography of VMT in and around metropolitan areas, as Oregon pre-visioned and California has started to legislate. A range of other techniques will contribute.

Like other base level consumption reductions, and unlike fuel substitutions, the savings multiply through the system. So I’ll trade you a wedge of savings through reduced VMT for a wedge of cellulosic biofuels, which are still increasingly dubious as to actual net carbon savings.

]]> By: student http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-45473 student Mon, 04 May 2009 01:26:53 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-45473 We could easly build cars the get gas milage close to100 miles per gallon I am working on a design to convert a Geo metro to a 3 wheel motor cycle 3rd whell will be electric and it shoudget well over 100 MPH and still get 80 + gas only mode we just need smaller cars We could easly build cars the get gas milage close to100 miles per gallon
I am working on a design to convert a Geo metro to a 3 wheel motor cycle 3rd whell will be electric and it shoudget well over 100 MPH and still get 80 + gas only mode we just need smaller cars

]]> By: Barackoli http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-39754 Barackoli Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:13:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-39754 i have read this post. Interesting i have read this post. Interesting

]]> By: Online Resource http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-34653 Online Resource Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:01:19 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-34653 This post and all replies is a great climate resource. Thanks all of you. This post and all replies is a great climate resource.
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]]> By: Richard Mercer http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-34557 Richard Mercer Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:12:02 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-34557 What about biomass to methane? Cow manure, sewage treatment plants, landfills, etc. How big a part could this play? Bioplastics A company called Converted Organics turns food waste into fertilizer. Basically composting on an industrial scale. Is it possible that there are several smaller solutions, maybe like these, that together add up to a wedge? Hemp for paper as part of the reforestation wedge. What about biomass to methane? Cow manure, sewage treatment plants, landfills, etc. How big a part could this play?

Bioplastics

A company called Converted Organics turns food waste into fertilizer. Basically composting on an industrial scale.

Is it possible that there are several smaller solutions, maybe like these, that together add up to a wedge?

Hemp for paper as part of the reforestation wedge.

]]> By: cephe kaplama http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-34400 cephe kaplama Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:13:14 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-34400 Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.

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]]> By: e-okul http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-29901 e-okul Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:18:32 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-29901 Thanks you webmaster Thanks you webmaster

]]> By: ShellyT http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-28129 ShellyT Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:12:30 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-28129 OK, the political picture has changed. Do you think that stabilizing at 450ppm is politically possible now that Obama is in office? All I know is that this is dire and since Obama isn't stupid, there must be some hope for this goal. OK, the political picture has changed.
Do you think that stabilizing at 450ppm is politically possible now that Obama is in office?

All I know is that this is dire and since Obama isn’t stupid, there must be some hope for this goal.

]]> By: 350-001 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-27972 350-001 Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:52:12 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/22/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-2-the-solution/#comment-27972 Thank You for this :) Thank You for this :)

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