Comments on: California tightens building standards yet again http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:55:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Roof Coatings http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-35341 Roof Coatings Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:58:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-35341 Very realistic points for saving energy. hopefully many times energy can be saved with methods. Must adopt it for the development of economy. Very realistic points for saving energy. hopefully many times energy can be saved with methods. Must adopt it for the development of economy.

]]> By: Liquid Roof http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-28739 Liquid Roof Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:39:52 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-28739 Ya its a practical move towards energy saving. I really want to appreciate on these steps. Keep it up. Ya its a practical move towards energy saving. I really want to appreciate on these steps. Keep it up.

]]> By: msn nickleri http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-26399 msn nickleri Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:38:15 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-26399 Mark, I am not familiar with the gory details, but in the US most private utilities are regulated by some sort of public utilities commission. I believe that body takes into account the utility’s expenditure on conservation just as it would if the utility were building a power plant and getting a return on that investment. Mark, I am not familiar with the gory details, but in the US most private utilities are regulated by some sort of public utilities commission. I believe that body takes into account the utility’s expenditure on conservation just as it would if the utility were building a power plant and getting a return on that investment.

]]> By: John Mashey http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12083 John Mashey Mon, 05 May 2008 19:53:49 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12083 Mark, Earl: regarding the rules, a good palceto start is <a href="http://www.energy.ca.gov/" rel="nofollow">California Energy Commission</a>. Go there, and search: energy utility . From the way Peter Darbee talked when I heard him last Fall, many state PUCs weren't into effective decoupling yet or enough. Google: decoupling utility gets lots of hits, and Joe wrote about this <a href="http://climateprogress.org/2007/02/17/one-climate-solution-for-utilities/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Mark, Earl:
regarding the rules, a good palceto start is California Energy Commission. Go there, and search: energy utility .

From the way Peter Darbee talked when I heard him last Fall, many state PUCs weren’t into effective decoupling yet or enough.

Google: decoupling utility

gets lots of hits, and Joe wrote about this here.

]]> By: Earl Killian http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12062 Earl Killian Mon, 05 May 2008 16:41:32 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12062 Mark, I am not familiar with the gory details, but in the US most private utilities are regulated by some sort of public utilities commission. I believe that body takes into account the utility's expenditure on conservation just as it would if the utility were building a power plant and getting a return on that investment. Mark, I am not familiar with the gory details, but in the US most private utilities are regulated by some sort of public utilities commission. I believe that body takes into account the utility’s expenditure on conservation just as it would if the utility were building a power plant and getting a return on that investment.

]]> By: Earl Killian http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12055 Earl Killian Mon, 05 May 2008 13:46:27 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12055 Hal, strangely enough it was RR who signed the Warren-Alquist bill in California in response to the 1970s energy shocks. Actually I think the legislature passed the bill, RR vetoed it, then the crisis hit, and RR reversed himself and signed it. Art Rosenfeld's biography (online, not too long) talks about this a bit. Hal, strangely enough it was RR who signed the Warren-Alquist bill in California in response to the 1970s energy shocks. Actually I think the legislature passed the bill, RR vetoed it, then the crisis hit, and RR reversed himself and signed it.

Art Rosenfeld’s biography (online, not too long) talks about this a bit.

]]> By: Hal Levin http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12048 Hal Levin Mon, 05 May 2008 04:17:26 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12048 California started on the conservation path after "exporting" its former governor (RR) to Washington where he and his allies did what they could to make sure the country didn't follow the California lead. We still haven't recovered, but California has managed to keep per capita electric consumption stable all these years anyway. It's just that there are so many more of us now. Like Amory says, conservation is the low hanging fruit that is piling up and rotting around our ankles. California started on the conservation path after “exporting” its former governor (RR) to Washington where he and his allies did what they could to make sure the country didn’t follow the California lead. We still haven’t recovered, but California has managed to keep per capita electric consumption stable all these years anyway. It’s just that there are so many more of us now. Like Amory says, conservation is the low hanging fruit that is piling up and rotting around our ankles.

]]> By: Mark Shapiro http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12047 Mark Shapiro Mon, 05 May 2008 04:15:43 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12047 I certainly like decoupling utilities' profits from revenue so that they can encourage efficiency, and I have read about it at RMI, but how is it implemented? How is (or was, in California's case) utility law changed to encourage efficiency? I certainly like decoupling utilities’ profits from revenue so that they can encourage efficiency, and I have read about it at RMI, but how is it implemented? How is (or was, in California’s case) utility law changed to encourage efficiency?

]]> By: John Mashey http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12041 John Mashey Mon, 05 May 2008 03:30:54 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12041 Mauri: Fortunately, this isn't the EPA's turf. How are the local PUC rules in new England? Do they do good job of incenting utilities for efficiency? If not, it's probably one of the biggest wins there is. Our local NorCal utility is <a href="http://www.pge.com" rel="nofollow">PG&E</a>, and quick perusal of their webpages shows how they act, and they actually mean it - I've talked to several of their senior people, including their CEO, <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/18/BUG2BLR5031.DTL" rel="nofollow">Peter Darbee</a>, and articulate and impressive speaker. Mauri:
Fortunately, this isn’t the EPA’s turf.

How are the local PUC rules in new England? Do they do good job of incenting utilities for efficiency? If not, it’s probably one of the biggest wins there is. Our local NorCal utility is PG&E, and quick perusal of their webpages shows how they act, and they actually mean it – I’ve talked to several of their senior people, including their CEO, Peter Darbee, and articulate and impressive speaker.

]]> By: mauri pelto http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12002 mauri pelto Sun, 04 May 2008 12:35:23 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/04/california-tightens-building-standards-yet-again/#comment-12002 These are very practical steps. What can the EPA do to block these? President Reagan did not understand that electric utilities could make more by promoting less use of their product, than by trying to produce more product in the early 1980's. Strange for free market thinking, but it has proven to be true and the utilites have pushed the line for sometime. These are very practical steps. What can the EPA do to block these? President Reagan did not understand that electric utilities could make more by promoting less use of their product, than by trying to produce more product in the early 1980’s. Strange for free market thinking, but it has proven to be true and the utilites have pushed the line for sometime.

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