Comments on: Hadley Center to deniers: We are STILL warming http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:25:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: RAeJqJo http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-65163 RAeJqJo Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:34:31 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-65163 Hi! fjnlyFf Hi! fjnlyFf

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12720 David B. Benson Thu, 15 May 2008 17:05:33 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12720 Nylo --- The internet is just best-effort. With greatly increased traffic, it seems more and more messages to being tossed into the bit basket. Nylo — The internet is just best-effort. With greatly increased traffic, it seems more and more messages to being tossed into the bit basket.

]]> By: Nylo http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12683 Nylo Thu, 15 May 2008 06:00:27 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12683 Joe, you are really getting so much fun with all the censoring. Was there any disinformation in the long post I wrote and that you have changed to the single line "I just read it Joe"? I have proven to you (not to anyone else, as the post has been censored and nobody has been able to read it), that I have not broken any forum rule. I have referred you to several examples of other people breaking them. All you have answered is that the terms of conditions allow you to alter, edit or remove anything that is posted. Know what? Removing content that doesn't violate any blog rule is called censoring. Which is what you claim not to be doing. Now you say that you warmed about eliminating disinformative content, but it is false. The first post you eliminated was without any prior warning or explanation and it didn't contain any disinformation. I really got tired of this stuff. As I said, see you in 12 years. Joe, you are really getting so much fun with all the censoring. Was there any disinformation in the long post I wrote and that you have changed to the single line “I just read it Joe”?

I have proven to you (not to anyone else, as the post has been censored and nobody has been able to read it), that I have not broken any forum rule. I have referred you to several examples of other people breaking them. All you have answered is that the terms of conditions allow you to alter, edit or remove anything that is posted. Know what? Removing content that doesn’t violate any blog rule is called censoring. Which is what you claim not to be doing. Now you say that you warmed about eliminating disinformative content, but it is false. The first post you eliminated was without any prior warning or explanation and it didn’t contain any disinformation. I really got tired of this stuff. As I said, see you in 12 years.

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12655 Joe Wed, 14 May 2008 21:17:12 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12655 Gosh, Paul, I didn't know you could misread what I and others had written. Guess that's my fault. Anyway, the Hadley people repeatedly state that their data shows the climate has been warming this decade. The Hadley Science paper does NOT suggest temp stability until 2015 or 2020. The exact opposite. Same for the German paper. Gosh, Paul, I didn’t know you could misread what I and others had written. Guess that’s my fault. Anyway, the Hadley people repeatedly state that their data shows the climate has been warming this decade.

The Hadley Science paper does NOT suggest temp stability until 2015 or 2020. The exact opposite. Same for the German paper.

]]> By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12652 Paul K Wed, 14 May 2008 20:26:57 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12652 The temperature stuff comes from Hadley and MSU websites. Stability projections come from Hadley and recently published paper by German climatologists. Are they too part of the denier machine? I have learned from reading this blog to base everything on official climatology and peer reviewed science. The temperature stuff comes from Hadley and MSU websites. Stability projections come from Hadley and recently published paper by German climatologists. Are they too part of the denier machine? I have learned from reading this blog to base everything on official climatology and peer reviewed science.

]]> By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12642 Paul K Wed, 14 May 2008 18:55:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12642 Is there any disinformation in the following? No peer reviewed rebuttal of the Douglas et al paper flailed at here and on RC No statistically significant change in global temperature over last eight years. The latest research indicates stability until 2015 or 2020. NASA studies that arctic sea ice decrease driven more by decadal ocean oscillation and specific wind patterns than by CO2 [<em>JR: Actually, that is pretty much all disinformation. The temperature stuff is embarrassingly wrong for anybody to claim, especially someone who regularly reads this blog. I Can't believe you actually wrote "The latest research indicates stability until 2015 or 2020." That is a debunked denier talking point if ever there was one.</em>] Is there any disinformation in the following?

No peer reviewed rebuttal of the Douglas et al paper flailed at here and on RC

No statistically significant change in global temperature over last eight years. The latest research indicates stability until 2015 or 2020.

NASA studies that arctic sea ice decrease driven more by decadal ocean oscillation and specific wind patterns than by CO2

[JR: Actually, that is pretty much all disinformation. The temperature stuff is embarrassingly wrong for anybody to claim, especially someone who regularly reads this blog. I Can't believe you actually wrote "The latest research indicates stability until 2015 or 2020." That is a debunked denier talking point if ever there was one.]

]]> By: Nylo http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12639 Nylo Wed, 14 May 2008 17:26:42 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12639 I just read them, Joe. [<em>JR: "Although CAPAF has no obligation to monitor the Submissions, you acknowledge and agree that we may do one or all of the following: (a) monitor the Submissions; (b) alter, edit, or remove any Submission; or (c) disclose any Submissions." I have previously explained I won't keep allowing the same commenters with the same disinformation .</em>] I just read them, Joe.

[JR: "Although CAPAF has no obligation to monitor the Submissions, you acknowledge and agree that we may do one or all of the following: (a) monitor the Submissions; (b) alter, edit, or remove any Submission; or (c) disclose any Submissions." I have previously explained I won't keep allowing the same commenters with the same disinformation .]

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12634 Joe Wed, 14 May 2008 12:56:13 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12634 Nylo -- Some day you'll actually read the terms of use on this blog. No censorship here. I let people publish disinformation once maybe even twice. I've been more lenient with you than just about anybody. Lots of people wanted you voted off the island -- I even got a phone call. Sorry. Climate Audit is a website for deniers and delayers. It is a good place for you. I couldn't be happier that I am not like them, that this blog is not a repository for long-debunked disinformation. I see you are posting on RealClimate. That is also a good blog for you, as they don't mind debunking the same nonsense over and over again. There is no "AGW party" -- there is only a purely preventable tragedy that people like you are helping to make inevitable. Nylo — Some day you’ll actually read the terms of use on this blog. No censorship here. I let people publish disinformation once maybe even twice. I’ve been more lenient with you than just about anybody. Lots of people wanted you voted off the island — I even got a phone call. Sorry.

Climate Audit is a website for deniers and delayers. It is a good place for you. I couldn’t be happier that I am not like them, that this blog is not a repository for long-debunked disinformation.

I see you are posting on RealClimate. That is also a good blog for you, as they don’t mind debunking the same nonsense over and over again.

There is no “AGW party” — there is only a purely preventable tragedy that people like you are helping to make inevitable.

]]> By: Nylo http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12630 Nylo Wed, 14 May 2008 06:59:05 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12630 I'm done Joe, see you in 12 years, when I win the bet about arctic sea ice extension. Keep the censoring job, it's the most efficient way to keep skeptics away and not spoil your AGW party. I’m done Joe, see you in 12 years, when I win the bet about arctic sea ice extension. Keep the censoring job, it’s the most efficient way to keep skeptics away and not spoil your AGW party.

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/09/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12574 David B. Benson Tue, 13 May 2008 18:09:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/10/hadley-center-to-deniers-we-are-still-warming/#comment-12574 Nylo wrote "That would never happen in Climate Audit." SOme blogs have high standards and some have low. :-) Nylo wrote “That would never happen in Climate Audit.” SOme blogs have high standards and some have low. :-)

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