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	<title>Comments on: FHA:  Why does the Post let conservative columnists make up climate facts?</title>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/01/fha-why-does-the-post-let-conservative-columnists-make-up-climate-facts/#comment-13787</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold.....right over your head and long gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold&#8230;..right over your head and long gone.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCormick</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McCormick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold;

 when I read your comments I am reminded of that great 1966 classic  &quot;King of Hearts&quot; starring Alan Bates  And, I can take some comfort that you keep reminding me this all a movie and the bell tower clock has not struck midnight.

John McCormick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold;</p>
<p> when I read your comments I am reminded of that great 1966 classic  &#8220;King of Hearts&#8221; starring Alan Bates  And, I can take some comfort that you keep reminding me this all a movie and the bell tower clock has not struck midnight.</p>
<p>John McCormick</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Pierce Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Pierce Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: 945 ppm

What is that? It should be 385 ppmv or 385 ml CO2/ cu meter for standard dry air. The absolute amount of CO2 for air at 15 deg C and 1 atm pressure with 1% abs. humidity is about 365 ml/cu meter.  In the warm, humid tropics there is about 330 ml of CO2 /cu meter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: 945 ppm</p>
<p>What is that? It should be 385 ppmv or 385 ml CO2/ cu meter for standard dry air. The absolute amount of CO2 for air at 15 deg C and 1 atm pressure with 1% abs. humidity is about 365 ml/cu meter.  In the warm, humid tropics there is about 330 ml of CO2 /cu meter.</p>
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		<title>By: Willem van Oranje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willem van Oranje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The quote &quot;[T]he U.N.&#039;s World Meteorological Organization [...] says global temperatures have not risen in a decade&quot; is from an article by Roger Harrabin for the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm).

The quote is not from the WMO, it is intimated by the author of the article, Roger Harrabin:
&lt;blockquote&gt;El Nino warms the planet when it happens; La Nina cools it. This year, the Pacific is in the grip of a powerful La Nina.

It has contributed to torrential rains in Australia and to some of the coldest temperatures in memory in snow-bound parts of China.

Mr Jarraud told the BBC that the effect was likely to continue into the summer, depressing temperatures globally by a fraction of a degree.

This would mean that temperatures have not risen globally since 1998 when El Nino warmed the world. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

But Mr Jarraud from the WMO countered that in the same article with:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But Mr Jarraud insisted this was not the case and noted that 2008 temperatures would still be well above average for the last 100 years.

&quot;When you look at climate change you should not look at any particular year,&quot; he said. &quot;You should look at trends over a pretty long period and the trend of temperature globally is still very much indicative of warming.

&quot;La Nina is part of what we call &#039;variability&#039;. There has always been and there will always be cooler and warmer years, but what is important for climate change is that the trend is up; the climate on average is warming even if there is a temporary cooling because of La Nina.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quote &#8220;[T]he U.N.&#8217;s World Meteorological Organization [...] says global temperatures have not risen in a decade&#8221; is from an article by Roger Harrabin for the BBC (<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm)" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7329799.stm)</a>.</p>
<p>The quote is not from the WMO, it is intimated by the author of the article, Roger Harrabin:</p>
<blockquote><p>El Nino warms the planet when it happens; La Nina cools it. This year, the Pacific is in the grip of a powerful La Nina.</p>
<p>It has contributed to torrential rains in Australia and to some of the coldest temperatures in memory in snow-bound parts of China.</p>
<p>Mr Jarraud told the BBC that the effect was likely to continue into the summer, depressing temperatures globally by a fraction of a degree.</p>
<p>This would mean that temperatures have not risen globally since 1998 when El Nino warmed the world. </p></blockquote>
<p>But Mr Jarraud from the WMO countered that in the same article with:</p>
<blockquote><p>But Mr Jarraud insisted this was not the case and noted that 2008 temperatures would still be well above average for the last 100 years.</p>
<p>&#8220;When you look at climate change you should not look at any particular year,&#8221; he said. &#8220;You should look at trends over a pretty long period and the trend of temperature globally is still very much indicative of warming.</p>
<p>&#8220;La Nina is part of what we call &#8216;variability&#8217;. There has always been and there will always be cooler and warmer years, but what is important for climate change is that the trend is up; the climate on average is warming even if there is a temporary cooling because of La Nina.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Lou Grinzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Grinzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer the question in your title: To sell more copies of the paper, of course.

I keep telling people this, but they don&#039;t believe me: Most media outlets don&#039;t give a flying fig about what&#039;s true, except to the extent that they can call their &quot;news&quot; (as opposed to op-eds) accurate.  Period.  

The letters and editorials in the average US newspaper sound like the work of a bunch of psychopaths who have been locked up for anywhere from 20 to 50 years.  Newspapers are getting crushed by the &#039;net, so they&#039;re pandering to their readers as much as possible, in a miserable attempt to hold on to their dwindling readership.  Expecting them to turn down columns like the ones you (appropriately) rip apart would be like asking a teenage boy to pass up a chance to spend a night with a room full of porn stars--your intentions are admirable, but it just ain&#039;t gonna happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer the question in your title: To sell more copies of the paper, of course.</p>
<p>I keep telling people this, but they don&#8217;t believe me: Most media outlets don&#8217;t give a flying fig about what&#8217;s true, except to the extent that they can call their &#8220;news&#8221; (as opposed to op-eds) accurate.  Period.  </p>
<p>The letters and editorials in the average US newspaper sound like the work of a bunch of psychopaths who have been locked up for anywhere from 20 to 50 years.  Newspapers are getting crushed by the &#8216;net, so they&#8217;re pandering to their readers as much as possible, in a miserable attempt to hold on to their dwindling readership.  Expecting them to turn down columns like the ones you (appropriately) rip apart would be like asking a teenage boy to pass up a chance to spend a night with a room full of porn stars&#8211;your intentions are admirable, but it just ain&#8217;t gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: hapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>hapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eureka! i have perfected my method for making dartboards out of surplus car tires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eureka! i have perfected my method for making dartboards out of surplus car tires.</p>
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		<title>By: silence</title>
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		<dc:creator>silence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its normal to allow right-wing columnists to make up &quot;facts&quot;

Nothing special about climate here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its normal to allow right-wing columnists to make up &#8220;facts&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing special about climate here.</p>
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