Comments on: Wired magazine jumps the shark once too often and is eaten alive (along with Chris Mooney and geo-engineering) http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:44:34 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Earl Killian http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14972 Earl Killian Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:02:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14972 Paul K, the title of worst President, no century qualification required, belongs to George Bush. Paul K, the title of worst President, no century qualification required, belongs to George Bush.

]]> By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14951 Paul K Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:02:57 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14951 CMann, We owe no gratitude to Nixon. He was the worst president of the 20th century. CMann,
We owe no gratitude to Nixon. He was the worst president of the 20th century.

]]> By: CMann http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14949 CMann Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:20:41 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14949 <em>The Nixon scandals gave us public financing of presidential elections.</em> And look how we've shown our gratitude to that poor man! Paul K just keeps going downhill. The Nixon scandals gave us public financing of presidential elections.
And look how we’ve shown our gratitude to that poor man! Paul K just keeps going downhill.

]]> By: Earl Killian http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14923 Earl Killian Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:42:04 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14923 The attempt to compare 17th century church and the 21st century Joe Romm is really quite amusing. Joe is trying to keep the discussion based upon science. This forum is not the place to create science; peer-reviewed journals are the place to do that. This forum exists among other things to report science. Deniers try to take their arguments to non-science forums like this one because they won't fool scientists and so won't get printed in peer-reviewed journals. They hope instead to win in the court of public opinion, which can be swayed by volume. For Joe to try to parry every misinformation post would simply turn this into a contest of how many deniers can gang up to try to take over this blog and prevent him from accomplishing its purpose, which is to communicate news and information about what is happening with climate, science, solutions, politics, humor, etc. The attempt to compare 17th century church and the 21st century Joe Romm is really quite amusing. Joe is trying to keep the discussion based upon science. This forum is not the place to create science; peer-reviewed journals are the place to do that. This forum exists among other things to report science. Deniers try to take their arguments to non-science forums like this one because they won’t fool scientists and so won’t get printed in peer-reviewed journals. They hope instead to win in the court of public opinion, which can be swayed by volume. For Joe to try to parry every misinformation post would simply turn this into a contest of how many deniers can gang up to try to take over this blog and prevent him from accomplishing its purpose, which is to communicate news and information about what is happening with climate, science, solutions, politics, humor, etc.

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14922 David B. Benson Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:24:12 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14922 Well, the more we learn about PETM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene-Eocene_Thermal_Maximum the more I can imagine the impending catastrophe. :-( Well, the more we learn about PETM

http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Paleocene-Eocene_Thermal_Maximum

the more I can imagine the impending catastrophe. :-(

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14919 Joe Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:56:44 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14919 The science isn't settled. We don't know if unrestricted greenhouse gas emissions will prove imaginably catastrophic or unimaginably catastrophic. Seriously, the only thing that is unsettled about the science is the input of how much greenhouse gas emissions humans will emit. We are on track to 1000 ppm. That is unimaginably catastrophic. The science isn’t settled. We don’t know if unrestricted greenhouse gas emissions will prove imaginably catastrophic or unimaginably catastrophic.

Seriously, the only thing that is unsettled about the science is the input of how much greenhouse gas emissions humans will emit. We are on track to 1000 ppm. That is unimaginably catastrophic.

]]> By: Earl Killian http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14918 Earl Killian Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:36:14 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14918 Paul K, I support real public financing of elections. The kind they have in Arizona and Maine. The public financing option at the Federal level is worthless. Paul K, I support real public financing of elections. The kind they have in Arizona and Maine. The public financing option at the Federal level is worthless.

]]> By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14917 Paul K Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:29:07 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14917 Earl Killian, I strongly opposed Nixon and agree with hardly any of his policies. In '72 I went door to door for McGovern. As I recall the million dollars came from Insurance Magnate W. Clement Stone. Scaife could have given that too. The Nixon scandals gave us public financing of presidential elections. You have previously voiced support for public campaign financing. John McCain has been a champion of campaign finance reform. The principle fund raiser for your candidate's pre-senate political career is on his way to jail. Your candidate is the first presidential candidate to refuse to participate in the system you favor. His assertion that the system is broken is absurd since the only breakage in it is him. I don't have a problem with Mr. Sauros. In politics, money is the same as speech. I mentioned him to show that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The Democrats like to complain about Republican 527's, but Democratic 527's outspend Republicans - so far this year it's 2 to 1. On the very day that Obama said that Republican 527's were one of the reasons he had to turn his back on reform, MoveOn.org launched a $500,000 ad attack. It's almost laughable. Earl Killian,
I strongly opposed Nixon and agree with hardly any of his policies. In ‘72 I went door to door for McGovern. As I recall the million dollars came from Insurance Magnate W. Clement Stone. Scaife could have given that too. The Nixon scandals gave us public financing of presidential elections. You have previously voiced support for public campaign financing. John McCain has been a champion of campaign finance reform. The principle fund raiser for your candidate’s pre-senate political career is on his way to jail. Your candidate is the first presidential candidate to refuse to participate in the system you favor. His assertion that the system is broken is absurd since the only breakage in it is him.

I don’t have a problem with Mr. Sauros. In politics, money is the same as speech. I mentioned him to show that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. The Democrats like to complain about Republican 527’s, but Democratic 527’s outspend Republicans – so far this year it’s 2 to 1. On the very day that Obama said that Republican 527’s were one of the reasons he had to turn his back on reform, MoveOn.org launched a $500,000 ad attack. It’s almost laughable.

]]> By: John Hollenberg http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14916 John Hollenberg Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:17:31 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14916 Joe, Where are you when we need you??? Joe,

Where are you when we need you???

]]> By: tidal http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14915 tidal Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:14:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/06/24/wired-magazine-jumps-the-shark-once-too-often-and-is-eaten-alive/#comment-14915 Now, now. That's just uncalled for. You're not supposed to play the devastating Galileo card until <i>at least</i> 25 comments. Now, now. That’s just uncalled for. You’re not supposed to play the devastating Galileo card until at least 25 comments.

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