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	<title>Comments on: A bunch of bland old guys offer a bunch of bland old solutions</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Haran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Haran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich: agreed wrt to CAFE. Some sectors are going to have a hard time though - I&#039;m thinking in particular coal mining. The sooner we face that reality (Gore did so brilliantly in his speech), the sooner we can neutralize that opposition.

To be clear though: I think we&#039;ll all be wealthier, even if some corporations bite the dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich: agreed wrt to CAFE. Some sectors are going to have a hard time though &#8211; I&#8217;m thinking in particular coal mining. The sooner we face that reality (Gore did so brilliantly in his speech), the sooner we can neutralize that opposition.</p>
<p>To be clear though: I think we&#8217;ll all be wealthier, even if some corporations bite the dust.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Blinne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Blinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, it&#039;s actually good for business. By not having more aggressive CAFE standards in the &#039;80s and &#039;90s we have successfully killed off the American automobile industry. I am an engineer and we will work to the specs given to us. If there is no spec, we will do what is easiest. What was easiest was the high-margin SUVs because the CAFE standards didn&#039;t force them to be something more efficient. Now nobody wants them. Congress thought they were doing Detroit a favor but they weren&#039;t. For something sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce the lack of economic understanding here is simply put, staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, it&#8217;s actually good for business. By not having more aggressive CAFE standards in the &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s we have successfully killed off the American automobile industry. I am an engineer and we will work to the specs given to us. If there is no spec, we will do what is easiest. What was easiest was the high-margin SUVs because the CAFE standards didn&#8217;t force them to be something more efficient. Now nobody wants them. Congress thought they were doing Detroit a favor but they weren&#8217;t. For something sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce the lack of economic understanding here is simply put, staggering.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Haran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Haran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We must not set targets for which technology does not yet exist or which threatens major economic displacement.&quot;

Gee gosh, we have to save our climate, but we can&#039;t actually do anything that would put anyone out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We must not set targets for which technology does not yet exist or which threatens major economic displacement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee gosh, we have to save our climate, but we can&#8217;t actually do anything that would put anyone out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can go to war, but nobody can die.   You have to bake a cake, but you can&#039;t break any eggs.   

The best declarations must be those that everybody can be for and nobody can be against.  That&#039;s a negotiator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can go to war, but nobody can die.   You have to bake a cake, but you can&#8217;t break any eggs.   </p>
<p>The best declarations must be those that everybody can be for and nobody can be against.  That&#8217;s a negotiator.</p>
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