Comments on: Bush’s Puppets http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:13:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: BT Turner http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16676 BT Turner Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:03:20 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16676 "The waiver would have allowed the state to implement its own standards for greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles, in excess of those set by the federal government." - Just to point out, the federal government has no, zero, nada standards set for GHGs from vehicles. Fuel economy standards set by NHTSA are not GHG standards. Also btw, setting federal vehicle GHG standards is exactly what the Supreme Court required EPA to do (or show why not) in Mass v. EPA and the career scientists and Mr. Johnson himself all agreed they could and should do - until they were overruled, in this case, by the Vice-President's office. Same story, different day. “The waiver would have allowed the state to implement its own standards for greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles, in excess of those set by the federal government.”
- Just to point out, the federal government has no, zero, nada standards set for GHGs from vehicles. Fuel economy standards set by NHTSA are not GHG standards.
Also btw, setting federal vehicle GHG standards is exactly what the Supreme Court required EPA to do (or show why not) in Mass v. EPA and the career scientists and Mr. Johnson himself all agreed they could and should do - until they were overruled, in this case, by the Vice-President’s office. Same story, different day.

]]> By: Rick http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16677 Rick Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:13:00 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16677 I'm suffering from outrage fatigue. I don't know where to start. First the term "oil shale" sounds deliberately crafted by wordsmiths operating in the bowels of some public relations firm like Hill and Knowlton. "Oil shale" is actually a proto-petroleum precursor called kerogen. I'd like to know how their going to convince mid-western cities to give up their golf courses and green lawns to cook this waxy substance into oil, the way Shell wants to, and build anywhere from 1 to 3 coal fired generating pants to build the ovens to cook this stuff into oil. And if the western states do object to their water being used in this fool's errand will they convince the Great Lakes states to build canals to drain their water for this destructive project? I’m suffering from outrage fatigue. I don’t know where to start. First the term “oil shale” sounds deliberately crafted by wordsmiths operating in the bowels of some public relations firm like Hill and Knowlton. “Oil shale” is actually a proto-petroleum precursor called kerogen. I’d like to know how their going to convince mid-western cities to give up their golf courses and green lawns to cook this waxy substance into oil, the way Shell wants to, and build anywhere from 1 to 3 coal fired generating pants to build the ovens to cook this stuff into oil. And if the western states do object to their water being used in this fool’s errand will they convince the Great Lakes states to build canals to drain their water for this destructive project?

]]> By: Brooks B. http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16679 Brooks B. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:01:20 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16679 Just read about this in Washington Post. It's apparent that Johnson folded under direct orders. His Email is a strong statement that GW is a major problem for US. I include the beginning of the article and a link. WHITE HOUSE SOUGHT RETRACTION EPA E-Mail Concluded Global Warming Endangers Public Health, Senator Says By Juliet Eilperin Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, July 25, 2008; Page A19 Under a subpoena threat from Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), who chairs the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, the Environmental Protection Agency late Wednesday sent the panel a copy of its Dec. 5 proposal to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act -- as a brief loan. Read article at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/24/AR2008072403423.html?sub=AR If link doesn't work search washingtonpost.com for "EPA E-Mail Concluded" Just read about this in Washington Post. It’s apparent that Johnson folded under direct orders. His Email is a strong statement that GW is a major problem for US. I include the beginning of the article and a link.

WHITE HOUSE SOUGHT RETRACTION
EPA E-Mail Concluded Global Warming Endangers Public Health, Senator Says

By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 25, 2008; Page A19

Under a subpoena threat from Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), who chairs the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, the Environmental Protection Agency late Wednesday sent the panel a copy of its Dec. 5 proposal to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act — as a brief loan.

Read article at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2008/ 07/ 24/ AR2008072403423.html?sub=AR

If link doesn’t work search washingtonpost.com for “EPA E-Mail Concluded”

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16686 David B. Benson Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:52:25 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16686 "Costs Of Climate Change, State-by-state: Billions, Says New Report" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080723134445.htm “Costs Of Climate Change, State-by-state: Billions, Says New Report”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/ releases/ 2008/ 07/ 080723134445.htm

]]> By: mauri pelto http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16703 mauri pelto Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:23:39 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16703 The EPA is not acting like a puppet under complete control now, leaking information such as the email behind the scenes, but still showing no public spine. Nice report you linked D. Benson The EPA is not acting like a puppet under complete control now, leaking information such as the email behind the scenes, but still showing no public spine. Nice report you linked D. Benson

]]> By: Bob Wallace http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16704 Bob Wallace Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:33:43 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16704 Underlings in the EPA are most likely not as afraid of losing their jobs as they were when the White House had a firmer grasp on the government. As more and more information emerges about how "truth" has been shaped to fit political means there is less public tolerance for a "unitary executive"/dictator. Hopefully people below the level of political appointee will continue to leak suppressed information so that we can start getting our country back on track rather than having to wait until late January, 2009. Underlings in the EPA are most likely not as afraid of losing their jobs as they were when the White House had a firmer grasp on the government. As more and more information emerges about how “truth” has been shaped to fit political means there is less public tolerance for a “unitary executive”/dictator.

Hopefully people below the level of political appointee will continue to leak suppressed information so that we can start getting our country back on track rather than having to wait until late January, 2009.

]]> By: Jim Bynum http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16746 Jim Bynum Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:08:08 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/25/bush%e2%80%99s-puppets/#comment-16746 Violations of the Claean Air Act is just the latest in a long string of EPA acts that disregard the intent of Congress and public health. In 1993 EPA issued the Part 5o3 sludge regulation which took disease and toxic contaminated sludge out of landfills and dumped it on our food crops, lawns, gardens, parks and school grounds. Now, we get E. coli and Salmonella food. Our drinking water is contaminated and we have epidemics runnibg wild. EPA assures us we are safe -- because it does not investigate and has the power to keep the health officals from investigating alleged health effects. www.thewatchers.us www.deadlydeceit.com www.sludgevictims.com www.sludgefacts.org Violations of the Claean Air Act is just the latest in a long string of EPA acts that disregard the intent of Congress and public health. In 1993 EPA issued the Part 5o3 sludge regulation which took disease and toxic contaminated sludge out of landfills and dumped it on our food crops, lawns, gardens, parks and school grounds. Now, we get E. coli and Salmonella food. Our drinking water is contaminated and we have epidemics runnibg wild. EPA assures us we are safe — because it does not investigate and has the power to keep the health officals from investigating alleged health effects.
www.thewatchers.us
www.deadlydeceit.com
www.sludgevictims.com
www.sludgefacts.org

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