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	<title>Comments on: Tire Pressure and Personal Virtue</title>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17663</link>
		<author>charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've always thought it interesting that the Bush/Cheny defense of "sacrifice" was having our phone calls monitored and standing in line for overpaid TSA staffers to fondle us.

It takes political courage to call for sacrifice, and I'd respect Obama more if he called for more sacrifices. Too much of his energy plan is give-aways for hybrids and using the government spending power.  I understand that campaigning for a higher gas tax may be suicide, but there are other steps he can call for to move the number of miles Americans drive down.  

For instance:   Insurance reform -- giving more discounts for fewer miles driven.  Pushing warranty claims up - so a car driven 10K miles in three years doesn't necessarily go off warranty.    And immediate implementation of the tire pressure monitor and fuel computer displays in all cars sold in the US.  Easy aftermarket tire pressure monitoring for older cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought it interesting that the Bush/Cheny defense of &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; was having our phone calls monitored and standing in line for overpaid TSA staffers to fondle us.</p>
<p>It takes political courage to call for sacrifice, and I&#8217;d respect Obama more if he called for more sacrifices. Too much of his energy plan is give-aways for hybrids and using the government spending power.  I understand that campaigning for a higher gas tax may be suicide, but there are other steps he can call for to move the number of miles Americans drive down.  </p>
<p>For instance:   Insurance reform &#8212; giving more discounts for fewer miles driven.  Pushing warranty claims up - so a car driven 10K miles in three years doesn&#8217;t necessarily go off warranty.    And immediate implementation of the tire pressure monitor and fuel computer displays in all cars sold in the US.  Easy aftermarket tire pressure monitoring for older cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick C</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17664</link>
		<author>Rick C</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17664</guid>
					<description>I was checking my tire pressure before checking my tire pressure was cool.

PS: I'm also a hypermiler but not the kind that drafts 18 Wheelers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was checking my tire pressure before checking my tire pressure was cool.</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;m also a hypermiler but not the kind that drafts 18 Wheelers.</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17665</link>
		<author>paulm</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17665</guid>
					<description>I bet lots of people have topped up their tires now...if they save  money they should vote Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet lots of people have topped up their tires now&#8230;if they save  money they should vote Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Black</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17666</link>
		<author>Peter Black</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17666</guid>
					<description>It's interesting to check out where people have been using mass transit more. In June, I created a map showing just that...and demonstrating that 75% of American cities have seen an increase in transit use. 

This ties into the concept that we need to better fund our mass transit systems so that we continue to lower our GHG emissions while we provide excellent options for those who don't want to sit in traffic for an hour or two a day...nor monitor their tires constantly...

http://environmentaldefenseblogs.org/climateatlas/2008/07/17/gas-prices-up-3-out-of-4-cities-in-the-us-have-seen-increases-in-public-transit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to check out where people have been using mass transit more. In June, I created a map showing just that&#8230;and demonstrating that 75% of American cities have seen an increase in transit use. </p>
<p>This ties into the concept that we need to better fund our mass transit systems so that we continue to lower our GHG emissions while we provide excellent options for those who don&#8217;t want to sit in traffic for an hour or two a day&#8230;nor monitor their tires constantly&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://environmentaldefenseblogs.org/climateatlas/2008/07/17/gas-prices-up-3-out-of-4-cities-in-the-us-have-seen-increases-in-public-transit/" rel="nofollow">http://environmentaldefenseblogs.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>climateatlas/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>07/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>17/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>gas-prices-up-3-out-of-4-cities-in-the-us-have-seen-increases-in-public-transit/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17667</link>
		<author>llewelly</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17667</guid>
					<description>If you had ever read anything by Mark Twain, or any other authentic depiction of 19th century America, you would know that in 19th century America, one way to attack, insult and humiliate another person, or, more commonly, group of other people, was to find the corpse of a cat, and throw it at your target. Thrown dead cats often appeared in mob violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had ever read anything by Mark Twain, or any other authentic depiction of 19th century America, you would know that in 19th century America, one way to attack, insult and humiliate another person, or, more commonly, group of other people, was to find the corpse of a cat, and throw it at your target. Thrown dead cats often appeared in mob violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17668</link>
		<author>Paul K</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17668</guid>
					<description>Actions speak louder than words. Climate voters understand that Obama voted for the 2005 Bush Cheney Energy Bill while McCain voted against it. McCain has introduced a climate relevant bill in the Senate. Obama has not. McCain has a career long  oppositon to  corn ethanol (the one time solution that turned out to have tremendous negatives) subsidies. Obama has always been a strong supporter of this failed strategy. Talk about judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actions speak louder than words. Climate voters understand that Obama voted for the 2005 Bush Cheney Energy Bill while McCain voted against it. McCain has introduced a climate relevant bill in the Senate. Obama has not. McCain has a career long  oppositon to  corn ethanol (the one time solution that turned out to have tremendous negatives) subsidies. Obama has always been a strong supporter of this failed strategy. Talk about judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17670</link>
		<author>Steve H</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17670</guid>
					<description>Nice site there paul.  Not really.  I can't believe you would actually link to something that pathetic.  Corn ethanol is not a failed strategy by any means.  Its not a silver bullet, either.  Its has its place, but we need leaders who recognize that the impetus is on the individual to make sacrifices to reduce their gasoline usage, both to reduce our dependence on foreign sources of oil and to limit greenhouse gas emissions, because the government alone cannot succeed in both of those areas.  Supposing we build the Great Wall of Oil Wells around our shores to pump out every last drop of oil, that still won't come close to making a lick of difference in becoming "energy independent."  Alas, McCain doesn't have this thing you call 'judgment'.  He has (Cheny's) advisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice site there paul.  Not really.  I can&#8217;t believe you would actually link to something that pathetic.  Corn ethanol is not a failed strategy by any means.  Its not a silver bullet, either.  Its has its place, but we need leaders who recognize that the impetus is on the individual to make sacrifices to reduce their gasoline usage, both to reduce our dependence on foreign sources of oil and to limit greenhouse gas emissions, because the government alone cannot succeed in both of those areas.  Supposing we build the Great Wall of Oil Wells around our shores to pump out every last drop of oil, that still won&#8217;t come close to making a lick of difference in becoming &#8220;energy independent.&#8221;  Alas, McCain doesn&#8217;t have this thing you call &#8216;judgment&#8217;.  He has (Cheny&#8217;s) advisers.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17671</link>
		<author>Paul K</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17671</guid>
					<description>Steve H,
I link to my site because I disdain anonymous commenting. You're right, the page is pretty weak and it gets almost no traffic. I rarely post there. It used to be better and may be again in the future.

Corn ethanol is a climate and environmental horror story. It should not be subsidized.

You may not know that I strongly favor replacing fossil fuel. Pretty soon my name link will be to a page describing an organization I have created to push that replacement at the consumer level.

You can't equate McCain and Cheney. Remember, Obama voted Cheney's way, McCain didn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve H,<br />
I link to my site because I disdain anonymous commenting. You&#8217;re right, the page is pretty weak and it gets almost no traffic. I rarely post there. It used to be better and may be again in the future.</p>
<p>Corn ethanol is a climate and environmental horror story. It should not be subsidized.</p>
<p>You may not know that I strongly favor replacing fossil fuel. Pretty soon my name link will be to a page describing an organization I have created to push that replacement at the consumer level.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t equate McCain and Cheney. Remember, Obama voted Cheney&#8217;s way, McCain didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hollenberg</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17672</link>
		<author>John Hollenberg</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17672</guid>
					<description>I agree that corn ethanol is a very bad idea.  However, just because there is one weak point in Obama's overall energy plan doesn't mean the whole plan is bad.  If you want to say that actions speak louder than words, read McCain's record on voting against renewable energy and the fact that for environmental voting overall he received a "perfect" score of ZERO for the year 2007 from the League of Conservation Voters:

http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/14/why-mccain-hates-renewables-but-pretends-he-loves-them/

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2008/mccain_gw_record.html

I would say that McCain's record is pretty pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that corn ethanol is a very bad idea.  However, just because there is one weak point in Obama&#8217;s overall energy plan doesn&#8217;t mean the whole plan is bad.  If you want to say that actions speak louder than words, read McCain&#8217;s record on voting against renewable energy and the fact that for environmental voting overall he received a &#8220;perfect&#8221; score of ZERO for the year 2007 from the League of Conservation Voters:</p>
<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/14/why-mccain-hates-renewables-but-pretends-he-loves-them/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>08/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>14/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>why-mccain-hates-renewables-but-pretends-he-loves-them/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2008/mccain_gw_record.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanprogressaction.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>issues/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>mccain_gw_record.html</a></p>
<p>I would say that McCain&#8217;s record is pretty pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17676</link>
		<author>Bob Wallace</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17676</guid>
					<description>Paul, I just read through a letter written by James Hansen.  In it he says the following... 

"The public, however, is not presented a realistic picture of how science works on such matters. Instead public discussion of global warming is befogged by contrarians, whose opinions are given a megaphone by special interests that benefit by keeping the public confused. Some of the contrarians were once scientists, but now they behave, at least on the topic of global warming, as lawyers defending a client. Their aim is to present a case as effectively as possible, citing only evidence that supports their client, and making the story appear as favorable as possible to their client."

Obviously he's talking about cherry picking data.

Any chance you're cherry picking voting records rather than giving a true representation of the two candidates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, I just read through a letter written by James Hansen.  In it he says the following&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;The public, however, is not presented a realistic picture of how science works on such matters. Instead public discussion of global warming is befogged by contrarians, whose opinions are given a megaphone by special interests that benefit by keeping the public confused. Some of the contrarians were once scientists, but now they behave, at least on the topic of global warming, as lawyers defending a client. Their aim is to present a case as effectively as possible, citing only evidence that supports their client, and making the story appear as favorable as possible to their client.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously he&#8217;s talking about cherry picking data.</p>
<p>Any chance you&#8217;re cherry picking voting records rather than giving a true representation of the two candidates?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17678</link>
		<author>Paul K</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17678</guid>
					<description>Bob Wallace,
As another famous climate scientist said, "You have to pick some cherries if you want to make a pie." Corn ethanol subsidies, legislation introduced and the 2005 Bush Cheney energy bill are three things where both candidates have a record that can be compared. The record makes McCain look better. 

I do think McCain is the candidate for climate voters. Can you pick any cherries in Obama's record - as opposed to rhetoric and campaign promises - that balance out the negatives I've identified?

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  Funny stuff, Paul. McCain is a candidate for voters who don't care about the climate (see "&lt;a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/08/no-climate-for-old-men-why-john-mccain-isnt-the-candidate-stop-global-warming/" rel="nofollow"&gt;No climate for old men: Why John McCain isn’t the candidate to stop global warming&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Wallace,<br />
As another famous climate scientist said, &#8220;You have to pick some cherries if you want to make a pie.&#8221; Corn ethanol subsidies, legislation introduced and the 2005 Bush Cheney energy bill are three things where both candidates have a record that can be compared. The record makes McCain look better. </p>
<p>I do think McCain is the candidate for climate voters. Can you pick any cherries in Obama&#8217;s record - as opposed to rhetoric and campaign promises - that balance out the negatives I&#8217;ve identified?</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  Funny stuff, Paul. McCain is a candidate for voters who don&#8217;t care about the climate (see &#8220;<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/08/no-climate-for-old-men-why-john-mccain-isnt-the-candidate-stop-global-warming/" rel="nofollow">No climate for old men: Why John McCain isn’t the candidate to stop global warming</a>.&#8221;</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: nataraj</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17679</link>
		<author>nataraj</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17679</guid>
					<description>I've just one question. Who supports carbon tax ? Whose ideology would allow him to support carbon tax ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just one question. Who supports carbon tax ? Whose ideology would allow him to support carbon tax ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Alt</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17680</link>
		<author>Jay Alt</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17680</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Corn ethanol subsidies, legislation introduced and the 2005 Bush Cheney energy bill are three things where both candidates have a record that can be compared. &lt;/i&gt;

Very true

&lt;i&gt;The record makes McCain look better.&lt;/i&gt;

Only superficially. You continually portray McCain's vote as a stand against world hunger.  But in 2005 officials had no idea that US farm policy changes could become so harmful.  

McCain has opposed support for all alternative energies-  wind, solar, ethanol with equal vigor.  He is sure that The Market will 'solve' our problems, so why worry?  His proposals are inadequate and his party lacks the awareness, much less the  discipline, to pass meaningful climate measures. 

In the future, cellulosic ethanol will play a useful part of climate policy.  If Senator McCain is still around then, he'll work against those plans too.  He hasn't the slightest concept of how to help fold alternative energy policies into the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Corn ethanol subsidies, legislation introduced and the 2005 Bush Cheney energy bill are three things where both candidates have a record that can be compared. </i></p>
<p>Very true</p>
<p><i>The record makes McCain look better.</i></p>
<p>Only superficially. You continually portray McCain&#8217;s vote as a stand against world hunger.  But in 2005 officials had no idea that US farm policy changes could become so harmful.  </p>
<p>McCain has opposed support for all alternative energies-  wind, solar, ethanol with equal vigor.  He is sure that The Market will &#8217;solve&#8217; our problems, so why worry?  His proposals are inadequate and his party lacks the awareness, much less the  discipline, to pass meaningful climate measures. </p>
<p>In the future, cellulosic ethanol will play a useful part of climate policy.  If Senator McCain is still around then, he&#8217;ll work against those plans too.  He hasn&#8217;t the slightest concept of how to help fold alternative energy policies into the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: bill becker</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17727</link>
		<author>bill becker</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17727</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the explanation of dead cats, llewelly. It clears up a mystery I've been wondering about for a long time. Guess I shouldn't have skipped my American literature classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanation of dead cats, llewelly. It clears up a mystery I&#8217;ve been wondering about for a long time. Guess I shouldn&#8217;t have skipped my American literature classes.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hollenberg</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17909</link>
		<author>John Hollenberg</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/15/tire-pressure-and-personal-virtue/#comment-17909</guid>
					<description>Paul K. wrote: "I do think McCain is the candidate for climate voters."

Thanks, Paul.  You have finally pushed me to make a substantial contribution to the Obama campaign for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul K. wrote: &#8220;I do think McCain is the candidate for climate voters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks, Paul.  You have finally pushed me to make a substantial contribution to the Obama campaign for president.</p>
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