Comments on: Fifth warmest July on record. Climate forecast: Hot and then even hotter http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:31:26 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Dano http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-18296 Dano Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:50:09 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-18296 RW: The sat data does not cover the land and ocean. The majority of the TLT measurment covers <b>the atmosphere at 4-7 km above the surface of the planet.</b> Not the surface. In the atmosphere. Not surface. Best, D RW:

The sat data does not cover the land and ocean.

The majority of the TLT measurment covers the atmosphere at 4-7 km above the surface of the planet. Not the surface. In the atmosphere. Not surface.

Best,

D

]]> By: RWPollock http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17812 RWPollock Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:16:00 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17812 Satellite temperature data has the advantage of covering a much larger area of land and ocean and does not have to worry about urban heat islands. If you look at the three decades of satellite data, such as the NSS data of the lower troposphere found here: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2 ... you can see that July 2008 (at 0.048) is actually the 15th warmest July in the last 30 years. Satellite temperature data has the advantage of covering a much larger area of land and ocean and does not have to worry about urban heat islands.

If you look at the three decades of satellite data, such as the NSS data of the lower troposphere found here:
http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2 …
you can see that July 2008 (at 0.048) is actually the 15th warmest July in the last 30 years.

]]> By: Sterling925 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17786 Sterling925 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:38:04 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17786 "And no, I don’t think the monthly data tell us much about the climate — but I know reporting it annoys the deniers, and I am trying to enjoy my vacation." Schadenfreude :-) I'm beginning to wonder about you.... “And no, I don’t think the monthly data tell us much about the climate — but I know reporting it annoys the deniers, and I am trying to enjoy my vacation.”

Schadenfreude :-) I’m beginning to wonder about you….

]]> By: Richard Levangie http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17740 Richard Levangie Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:29:21 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17740 <i>And no, I don’t think the monthly data tell us much about the climate — but I know reporting it annoys the deniers, and I am trying to enjoy my vacation</i> This made me laugh out loud. And no, I don’t think the monthly data tell us much about the climate — but I know reporting it annoys the deniers, and I am trying to enjoy my vacation

This made me laugh out loud.

]]> By: Dano http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17737 Dano Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:58:11 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/18/fifth-warmest-july-on-record-climate-forecast-hot-and-then-even-hotter/#comment-17737 We should test the denialist logic with this news: see, temps not rising as fast in, say, February prrrrove! that warming has stopped. Using this same logic, warm July temps prrrrove! that warming continues. Oh wait: the stations are flawed. We can't believe their measurements when its warmer, only when its cooler. Or something. Whatever it takes to say something to maintain the self-identity. Best, D We should test the denialist logic with this news: see, temps not rising as fast in, say, February prrrrove! that warming has stopped. Using this same logic, warm July temps prrrrove! that warming continues.

Oh wait: the stations are flawed. We can’t believe their measurements when its warmer, only when its cooler. Or something. Whatever it takes to say something to maintain the self-identity.

Best,

D

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