Comments on: Should you freak out at the lack of air time for climate change in Denver — or Minneapolis? http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:03:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18046 Paul K Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:06:44 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18046 Rationalize the Convention ignoring climate issues if you must. The Democrats haven't talked much about energy at all. You can bet the Republicans will highlight McCain's change over to 21st Century energy plan. Rationalize the Convention ignoring climate issues if you must. The Democrats haven’t talked much about energy at all. You can bet the Republicans will highlight McCain’s change over to 21st Century energy plan.

]]> By: kenlevenson http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18048 kenlevenson Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:32:26 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18048 Paul K, Is that the 21st Century energy plan of drill, drill, drill, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear? Paul K,
Is that the 21st Century energy plan of drill, drill, drill, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear?

]]> By: Earl Killian http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18049 Earl Killian Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:35:26 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18049 Paul K, a 21st century plan? Do you mean McCain is going to throw out all the nonsense he's been spouting and adopt efficiency and renewables? I doubt it. The typical Republican method is frame the problem so solution is impossible, and thereby perpetuate the "government is useless" meme. If they actually allowed a solution to get passed, people might wake up to the fact that government can make a difference. So they fight every solution to the death. Paul K, a 21st century plan? Do you mean McCain is going to throw out all the nonsense he’s been spouting and adopt efficiency and renewables? I doubt it. The typical Republican method is frame the problem so solution is impossible, and thereby perpetuate the “government is useless” meme. If they actually allowed a solution to get passed, people might wake up to the fact that government can make a difference. So they fight every solution to the death.

]]> By: kenlevenson http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18050 kenlevenson Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:39:41 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18050 Hold on Paul K, Are you watching? Gov Granholm (sp?) is holding a forum on the stage right now about energy. (on CSpan of course...) Ah! ;) Hold on Paul K,
Are you watching? Gov Granholm (sp?) is holding a forum on the stage right now about energy. (on CSpan of course…) Ah! ;)

]]> By: kenlevenson http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18051 kenlevenson Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:47:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18051 Let's state the obvious - THE MEDIA IS THE PROBLEM. Here the Dems are having a really high-level discussion on energy, in prime time no less, and CNN, MSNBC and Fox are not broadcasting it! Shame! Let’s state the obvious - THE MEDIA IS THE PROBLEM. Here the Dems are having a really high-level discussion on energy, in prime time no less, and CNN, MSNBC and Fox are not broadcasting it! Shame!

]]> By: Ed Bachta http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18054 Ed Bachta Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:04:46 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18054 kenlevenson, this is why I'm opting to watch the live feed from the DNC website. Energy and alternative solutions are being mentioned quite a lot, actually (the current speaker has mentioned climate change twice). I'm hoping this will all be available for others to view in the Videos on Demand section. kenlevenson, this is why I’m opting to watch the live feed from the DNC website. Energy and alternative solutions are being mentioned quite a lot, actually (the current speaker has mentioned climate change twice). I’m hoping this will all be available for others to view in the Videos on Demand section.

]]> By: kenlevenson http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18055 kenlevenson Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:17:02 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18055 Ed, Agreed. For the record Paul K, Federico Pena is now speaking about energy - the fourth speaker in a row to feature energy....looks like tonight is energy night! Of course all the networks can due is babble on about "what're the Clinton's going to say/do?"....mindless.... Ed,
Agreed. For the record Paul K, Federico Pena is now speaking about energy - the fourth speaker in a row to feature energy….looks like tonight is energy night!

Of course all the networks can due is babble on about “what’re the Clinton’s going to say/do?”….mindless….

]]> By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18056 Paul K Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:19:28 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18056 <i>Do you mean McCain is going to throw out all the nonsense he’s been spouting and adopt efficiency and renewables?</i> Yes because it is a winning message for him. Contrary to partisan spin about his proposals, McCain will say the replacement of fossil fuel is indeed possible and necessary. Totally agree about network and cable coverage and have switched to C-span where I heard Pena also speak on energy. Do you mean McCain is going to throw out all the nonsense he’s been spouting and adopt efficiency and renewables? Yes because it is a winning message for him. Contrary to partisan spin about his proposals, McCain will say the replacement of fossil fuel is indeed possible and necessary.

Totally agree about network and cable coverage and have switched to C-span where I heard Pena also speak on energy.

]]> By: Jay Alt http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18058 Jay Alt Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:13:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18058 Pena touched on the threat of global warming but most of his applause lines came from themes like: clean energy / green jobs / can't outsource that. Pena pointed out the success Colorado has had using green policies and held those successes up as a template for the country. That's the approach that will attract independent votes and get us off the starting line. Pena touched on the threat of global warming but most of his applause lines came from
themes like: clean energy / green jobs / can’t outsource that.

Pena pointed out the success Colorado has had using green policies and held those successes up as a template for the country. That’s the approach that will attract independent votes and get us off the starting line.

]]> By: kenlevenson http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18059 kenlevenson Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:33:47 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18059 While Gov. Schweitzer's speech is a delight, the best line could be: "Barack Obama understands that the most important barrel of oil is the one you don't use." While Gov. Schweitzer’s speech is a delight, the best line could be: “Barack Obama understands that the most important barrel of oil is the one you don’t use.”

]]> By: Steve h http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18060 Steve h Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:37:25 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18060 Why, oh why does the best speaker we've had so far (regarding energy) have to mention CTL? But I still can't bring it upon myself to hold it against Gov. Schweitzer, because that was just one helluva speach on energy. Possibly the most uplifiting speach one could make given what could easily be a dull topic. Why, oh why does the best speaker we’ve had so far (regarding energy) have to mention CTL? But I still can’t bring it upon myself to hold it against Gov. Schweitzer, because that was just one helluva speach on energy. Possibly the most uplifiting speach one could make given what could easily be a dull topic.

]]> By: Paul K http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18063 Paul K Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:46:53 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18063 Gov. Schweitzer, embracing the let's do it all approach, gave the second best speech of the night (Hilary's was excellent) even if some are disappointed that he said Sen. Obama supports CTL and hydrogen, too. Gov. Schweitzer, embracing the let’s do it all approach, gave the second best speech of the night (Hilary’s was excellent) even if some are disappointed that he said Sen. Obama supports CTL and hydrogen, too.

]]> By: Joan http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18072 Joan Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:15:15 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18072 I must say that it is no shock to me that the Repulicans are doing a good imitation of ostriches at this point. It seems to be there way of dealing.... As far as the media go - No doubt they play a bigger role than they should. To bad they don't take responsibility... I must say that it is no shock to me that the Repulicans are doing a good imitation of ostriches at this point. It seems to be there way of dealing….
As far as the media go - No doubt they play a bigger role than they should. To bad they don’t take responsibility…

]]> By: Larry Coleman http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18077 Larry Coleman Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:37:14 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18077 For insights into the problem with the media...and a devastating critique...read James Fallows' book, "Breaking the news." Bottom line? The media is lazy. For insights into the problem with the media…and a devastating critique…read James Fallows’ book, “Breaking the news.” Bottom line? The media is lazy.

]]> By: john http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18080 john Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:24:36 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18080 Paul K: You've officially jumped the shark. It will be nigh impossible to give credence to anything you say after you said, "You can bet the Republicans will highlight McCain’s change over to 21st Century energy plan." Huh? You mean nukes and drill here, drill now? that 21st Century plan? The one rooted in the 1950's? Actually, I'm hearing climate and green energy come up a lot at the convention -- Pelosi highlighted it; Hillary did, Sweitzer did ... It's getting more attention than I thought it would, given the fact that McCain and the Repugs have successfully demagogued the issue of drilling. Watch C-span, and you'll get to see what the Party is saying, not what pundits are saying the Party is saying. Paul K: You’ve officially jumped the shark. It will be nigh impossible to give credence to anything you say after you said, “You can bet the Republicans will highlight McCain’s change over to 21st Century energy plan.”

Huh? You mean nukes and drill here, drill now? that 21st Century plan? The one rooted in the 1950’s?

Actually, I’m hearing climate and green energy come up a lot at the convention — Pelosi highlighted it; Hillary did, Sweitzer did …

It’s getting more attention than I thought it would, given the fact that McCain and the Repugs have successfully demagogued the issue of drilling.

Watch C-span, and you’ll get to see what the Party is saying, not what pundits are saying the Party is saying.

]]> By: charlie http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18087 charlie Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:33:07 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18087 "Climate" will always be a third or fourth tier issue. "Energy" will be a first tier issue as long as it is expensive. "Climate" has been a useful bat to hit at the Bush Administration politically because they seem out of tune with the times. But that will change with a new administration (D or R). [<em>JR: Climate will be a first-tier issue within 10 years. It will be the only first-tier issue within 20 years.</em>] “Climate” will always be a third or fourth tier issue. “Energy” will be a first tier issue as long as it is expensive.

“Climate” has been a useful bat to hit at the Bush Administration politically because they seem out of tune with the times. But that will change with a new administration (D or R).

[JR: Climate will be a first-tier issue within 10 years. It will be the only first-tier issue within 20 years.]

]]> By: Bill Reiswig http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18168 Bill Reiswig Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:08:26 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/26/should-you-freak-out-at-the-lack-of-air-time-for-climate-in-denver-or-minneapolis/#comment-18168 I PRAY that Al Gore will hit the republican party straight between the eyes with dropping climate change from their platform tonight. Its indicative that despite some sympathy for addressing the issue from McCain, that the bulk of the party consists of "Drill Here, Drill Now" Denialistas with no idea what challenges the 21st century will hold. How can McCain reform our energy mix if his own party not at his back? He can't. It's reason #1 among many to support Obama. I PRAY that Al Gore will hit the republican party straight between the eyes with dropping climate change from their platform tonight. Its indicative that despite some sympathy for addressing the issue from McCain, that the bulk of the party consists of “Drill Here, Drill Now” Denialistas with no idea what challenges the 21st century will hold. How can McCain reform our energy mix if his own party not at his back? He can’t. It’s reason #1 among many to support Obama.

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