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	<title>Comments on: Pickens in a pickle:  He embraces progressive policies but not progressive politicians.</title>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
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		<author>charlie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A kind of serious typo:  

"Even after meeting with Pickens, Obama told a town hall last month"

Shouldn't that be McCain?

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  As they used to say at M.I.T., spoo!&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A kind of serious typo:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Even after meeting with Pickens, Obama told a town hall last month&#8221;</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that be McCain?</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  As they used to say at M.I.T., spoo!</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<author>Russ</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, I thought that quote looked familiar, but it looked more like McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I thought that quote looked familiar, but it looked more like McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hollenberg</title>
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		<author>John Hollenberg</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One other typo: "acknowledge that or all his claims", which I assume should be "for all his claims".  Very good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other typo: &#8220;acknowledge that or all his claims&#8221;, which I assume should be &#8220;for all his claims&#8221;.  Very good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
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		<author>Ronald</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It’s just not enough controversy to get on the Main Stream Media.   You should have hit him or have gotten him to hit you before the MSM will print a controversy of ideas instead of a controversy or conflict between people.   Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s just not enough controversy to get on the Main Stream Media.   You should have hit him or have gotten him to hit you before the MSM will print a controversy of ideas instead of a controversy or conflict between people.   Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: hapa</title>
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		<author>hapa</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i want us to be vulnerable to the whims of canada. canadians are so spontaneous and fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want us to be vulnerable to the whims of canada. canadians are so spontaneous and fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
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		<author>Bob Wallace</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do you expect every personal conversion to be a Saul/Paul moment - a sudden great light and booming voice - that changes them instantly?

Much more likely that we all reach change via a process, one that can take long periods of time.

Pickens is reaching his  awareness in a gradual way starting with what he knows best - oil.

He has incredible access to oil-related information.  He can see that supplies will continue to tighten and that more and more American money will flood overseas causing significant damage to the country.

Luckily he found out that wind is a partial solution.  Now he's finding out that the people that he has historically supported are not working toward the change that he now recognizes are necessary.

Don't beat him back into the folds of the Right with big sticks.  Encourage him to question more of his previously held positions.

We greatly need his money and influence to help speed up solutions.  A few "big people" coming around will open the flood doors for many others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you expect every personal conversion to be a Saul/Paul moment - a sudden great light and booming voice - that changes them instantly?</p>
<p>Much more likely that we all reach change via a process, one that can take long periods of time.</p>
<p>Pickens is reaching his  awareness in a gradual way starting with what he knows best - oil.</p>
<p>He has incredible access to oil-related information.  He can see that supplies will continue to tighten and that more and more American money will flood overseas causing significant damage to the country.</p>
<p>Luckily he found out that wind is a partial solution.  Now he&#8217;s finding out that the people that he has historically supported are not working toward the change that he now recognizes are necessary.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t beat him back into the folds of the Right with big sticks.  Encourage him to question more of his previously held positions.</p>
<p>We greatly need his money and influence to help speed up solutions.  A few &#8220;big people&#8221; coming around will open the flood doors for many others.</p>
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		<title>By: JCH</title>
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		<author>JCH</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Being in the oil investment business, I'm supposed to like T-bone.  In ways I do, but the welching rat-fink weasel owes John Kerry money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being in the oil investment business, I&#8217;m supposed to like T-bone.  In ways I do, but the welching rat-fink weasel owes John Kerry money.</p>
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		<title>By: David Doty</title>
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		<author>David Doty</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Indeed, natural gas would share some of the storage problems seen by hydrogen.  There is a better solution.  We at Doty Energy have shown that it will be practical to make all the transportation fuels we need, cost effectively, from CO2 and wind energy.  The science is absolutely sound.  Check it out at windfuels.com.  WindFuels are 5 times better than biofuels from a carbon emissions perspective. This is a major breakthrough that ClimateProgress needs to discuss and promote.
David Doty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, natural gas would share some of the storage problems seen by hydrogen.  There is a better solution.  We at Doty Energy have shown that it will be practical to make all the transportation fuels we need, cost effectively, from CO2 and wind energy.  The science is absolutely sound.  Check it out at windfuels.com.  WindFuels are 5 times better than biofuels from a carbon emissions perspective. This is a major breakthrough that ClimateProgress needs to discuss and promote.<br />
David Doty</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
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		<author>paulm</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bob wrote ...&lt;i&gt;A few “big people” coming around will open the flood doors for many others.&lt;/i&gt;

'Sustainists'  should specifically target 'big people' (in every sense) to convince them of the  catastrophe round the corner. A few key individuals will cause the cascade needed. If the Clintons, Gates, Jobs, church leaders etc were to step it up a level we would be 3/4 the way there. 

Many do have a vaguely understand what is a head, but not the extent and the speed that events will unfold in. It is painful to move to the behavior and customs required to tackle this problem and so we keep putting off action.

We need leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob wrote &#8230;<i>A few “big people” coming around will open the flood doors for many others.</i></p>
<p>&#8216;Sustainists&#8217;  should specifically target &#8216;big people&#8217; (in every sense) to convince them of the  catastrophe round the corner. A few key individuals will cause the cascade needed. If the Clintons, Gates, Jobs, church leaders etc were to step it up a level we would be 3/4 the way there. </p>
<p>Many do have a vaguely understand what is a head, but not the extent and the speed that events will unfold in. It is painful to move to the behavior and customs required to tackle this problem and so we keep putting off action.</p>
<p>We need leadership.</p>
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