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	<title>Comments on: All things Chevy Volt, including the new House tax credit for plug ins</title>
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		<title>By: sex hikayeler</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-30657</link>
		<dc:creator>sex hikayeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ensest hikayeler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ensest hikayeler</p>
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		<title>By: büyütücü</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-28773</link>
		<dc:creator>büyütücü</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Drill, baby, drill” is no solution to our energy problems, not by a long shot. Help us stand up to Big Oil today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Drill, baby, drill” is no solution to our energy problems, not by a long shot. Help us stand up to Big Oil today.</p>
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		<title>By: shop</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-27329</link>
		<dc:creator>shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if you claim the credit as a personal credit, the tax code limits the amount of the credit that you may claim to the amount of your regular tax liability. Therefore, if your regular tax liability is zero, the amount of the credit for which you are eligible will be zero. The credit cannot be used to reduce your regular tax liability below zero, and cannot be carried forward or back to another taxable year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you claim the credit as a personal credit, the tax code limits the amount of the credit that you may claim to the amount of your regular tax liability. Therefore, if your regular tax liability is zero, the amount of the credit for which you are eligible will be zero. The credit cannot be used to reduce your regular tax liability below zero, and cannot be carried forward or back to another taxable year.</p>
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		<title>By: g-money</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-27140</link>
		<dc:creator>g-money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how are these hybrids heated and cooled for a comfortable ride during hot or cold temperatures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how are these hybrids heated and cooled for a comfortable ride during hot or cold temperatures?</p>
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		<title>By: msn nickleri</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-26425</link>
		<dc:creator>msn nickleri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A clever plugin hybrid design would use the waste heat of the electric motor and energy storage unit to warm up the ICE. That way, it is always warm when it starts. Increases reliability (no cold ICE start) and reduces pollution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clever plugin hybrid design would use the waste heat of the electric motor and energy storage unit to warm up the ICE. That way, it is always warm when it starts. Increases reliability (no cold ICE start) and reduces pollution.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyril R.</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-19377</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyril R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A clever plugin hybrid design would use the waste heat of the electric motor and energy storage unit to warm up the ICE. That way, it is always warm when it starts. Increases reliability (no cold ICE start) and reduces pollution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clever plugin hybrid design would use the waste heat of the electric motor and energy storage unit to warm up the ICE. That way, it is always warm when it starts. Increases reliability (no cold ICE start) and reduces pollution.</p>
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		<title>By: nataraj</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-19338</link>
		<dc:creator>nataraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered - who comes up with the elaborate language of the bills. I doubt it can be done by our busy representatives - do lobbyists write all the stuff and pass it on ?

GM has volt for one purpose now - to get billions of $ in cheap credit from uncle sam. They will price it high - very high - since they know the car will get some tax credit - and they will produce a small number of them. So they don&#039;t have to work hard to sell them all. 

I hope Mitsu MiEV comes to our rescue - or may be the Chinese BYD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered &#8211; who comes up with the elaborate language of the bills. I doubt it can be done by our busy representatives &#8211; do lobbyists write all the stuff and pass it on ?</p>
<p>GM has volt for one purpose now &#8211; to get billions of $ in cheap credit from uncle sam. They will price it high &#8211; very high &#8211; since they know the car will get some tax credit &#8211; and they will produce a small number of them. So they don&#8217;t have to work hard to sell them all. </p>
<p>I hope Mitsu MiEV comes to our rescue &#8211; or may be the Chinese BYD.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Killian</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-19331</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Killian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team Fate at U.C. Davis regularly took ICEs and converted them to PHEVs and they lost nothing in interior space.  The volume occupied from EV components came from volume freed up from using smaller ICE components (e.g. smaller engines).

The maintenance records for some Prius Taxis are online.  One can also find reports such as this one, from people who pay attention to maintenance costs:

http://www.autospies.com/news/Toyota-Prius-Taxi-Cracks-550000-km-32731/

Toyota Prius Taxi Cracks 550000 km

A Cairns-based Toyota Prius taxi has clocked up approximately 550,000 kilometers while costing just half the fuel and maintenance outlay compared to other conventionally-powered cars in the fleet.

Thirty-two Prius taxis operate in Cairns, each clocking up around 200,000km per annum. Local Toyota dealer Pacific Toyota says it has eight more on order for local cab companies.

Taxi operator Graham Boundy, who owns Black and White Taxis in Cairns, received the company’s first Prius in September 2005.

“We’ve have had almost three years great service from it,” he said.

“We obviously track our costs very closely and our reports show the Prius consumes half the petrol of other vehicles in our fleet and also half the service costs - it is quite amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team Fate at U.C. Davis regularly took ICEs and converted them to PHEVs and they lost nothing in interior space.  The volume occupied from EV components came from volume freed up from using smaller ICE components (e.g. smaller engines).</p>
<p>The maintenance records for some Prius Taxis are online.  One can also find reports such as this one, from people who pay attention to maintenance costs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.autospies.com/news/Toyota-Prius-Taxi-Cracks-550000-km-32731/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autospies.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>news/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>Toyota-Prius-Taxi-Cracks-550000-km-32731/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
<p>Toyota Prius Taxi Cracks 550000 km</p>
<p>A Cairns-based Toyota Prius taxi has clocked up approximately 550,000 kilometers while costing just half the fuel and maintenance outlay compared to other conventionally-powered cars in the fleet.</p>
<p>Thirty-two Prius taxis operate in Cairns, each clocking up around 200,000km per annum. Local Toyota dealer Pacific Toyota says it has eight more on order for local cab companies.</p>
<p>Taxi operator Graham Boundy, who owns Black and White Taxis in Cairns, received the company’s first Prius in September 2005.</p>
<p>“We’ve have had almost three years great service from it,” he said.</p>
<p>“We obviously track our costs very closely and our reports show the Prius consumes half the petrol of other vehicles in our fleet and also half the service costs &#8211; it is quite amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-19325</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Googled sludge a bit.  Here&#039;s a well-written statement that sums up what other sites said....

&quot;Sludge in gasoline engines is usually black emulsion of water and other combustion by-products, and oil formed primarily during low-temperature engine operation. Sludge is typically soft, but can polymerize to very hard substance. It plugs oil lines and screens, and accelerates wear of engine parts. Sludge deposits can be controlled with a dispersant additive that keeps the sludge constituents finely suspended in the oil.&quot;

People who use their cars mostly for short hops during which the engine doesn&#039;t reach full operating heat can cause a build up of water in the oil.  They need to change their oil more often (or use a dispersal additive).  

Hybrid ICEs are likely to turn on infrequently but run for extended times when they do switch on.  Easy enough to monitor &quot;minutes at temp&quot; and signal the driver to use the ICE from time to time if needed.

Also the &quot;combustion byproducts&quot; that help to create sludge are more common in well-worn engines with leaky rings and head gaskets.  Should be many years before the typical hybrid ICE is well worn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googled sludge a bit.  Here&#8217;s a well-written statement that sums up what other sites said&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sludge in gasoline engines is usually black emulsion of water and other combustion by-products, and oil formed primarily during low-temperature engine operation. Sludge is typically soft, but can polymerize to very hard substance. It plugs oil lines and screens, and accelerates wear of engine parts. Sludge deposits can be controlled with a dispersant additive that keeps the sludge constituents finely suspended in the oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>People who use their cars mostly for short hops during which the engine doesn&#8217;t reach full operating heat can cause a build up of water in the oil.  They need to change their oil more often (or use a dispersal additive).  </p>
<p>Hybrid ICEs are likely to turn on infrequently but run for extended times when they do switch on.  Easy enough to monitor &#8220;minutes at temp&#8221; and signal the driver to use the ICE from time to time if needed.</p>
<p>Also the &#8220;combustion byproducts&#8221; that help to create sludge are more common in well-worn engines with leaky rings and head gaskets.  Should be many years before the typical hybrid ICE is well worn.</p>
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		<title>By: rpauli</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/18/all-things-chevy-volt-including-the-house-tax-credit-for-plug-ins/#comment-19323</link>
		<dc:creator>rpauli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here it is:   Average Cost of Owning an Automobile

http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_14.html

If you want to swim in data, try:
ns/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_14.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here it is:   Average Cost of Owning an Automobile</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_14.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bts.gov/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>publications/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>national_transportation_statistics/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>html/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>table_03_14.html</a></p>
<p>If you want to swim in data, try:<br />
ns/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_14.html</p>
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