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	<title>Comments on: Congrats to Andy Revkin</title>
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		<title>By: s katz</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/19/congrats-to-andy-revkin/#comment-19375</link>
		<dc:creator>s katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, re: &#039;Arctic Ice Retreat Misses Last Year’s Mark&#039;. 

&quot;Global warming from the buildup of human-generated greenhouse gases almost certainly contributes to the Arctic ice retreats, according to a host of Arctic specialists. But many say that natural variations in Arctic winds and cloud cover probably had a role in shaping the particularly large ice losses in the past two summers.&quot; 

The past TWO summers? 
I could not find any scientist that said THIS YEAR&#039;S wind and cloud cover had an accelerated impact on the melting. 

Walt Meier, who you quoted in your article said this also:

&quot;I think this summer has been more remarkable than last year, in fact, because last year we had really optimal conditions to melt a lot of ice. We had clear skies with the Sun blazing down, we had warm temperatures, and winds that pushed the ice edge northwards. We didn&#039;t have any of this this year, and yet we still came within 10% of the record; so people might be tempted to call it a recovery, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a good term, we&#039;re still on a downwards trend towards ice-free Arctic summers.&quot;


I had to go to the BBC to find his quote in full. 
I could not find it in any major US new source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, re: &#8216;Arctic Ice Retreat Misses Last Year’s Mark&#8217;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Global warming from the buildup of human-generated greenhouse gases almost certainly contributes to the Arctic ice retreats, according to a host of Arctic specialists. But many say that natural variations in Arctic winds and cloud cover probably had a role in shaping the particularly large ice losses in the past two summers.&#8221; </p>
<p>The past TWO summers?<br />
I could not find any scientist that said THIS YEAR&#8217;S wind and cloud cover had an accelerated impact on the melting. </p>
<p>Walt Meier, who you quoted in your article said this also:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think this summer has been more remarkable than last year, in fact, because last year we had really optimal conditions to melt a lot of ice. We had clear skies with the Sun blazing down, we had warm temperatures, and winds that pushed the ice edge northwards. We didn&#8217;t have any of this this year, and yet we still came within 10% of the record; so people might be tempted to call it a recovery, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a good term, we&#8217;re still on a downwards trend towards ice-free Arctic summers.&#8221;</p>
<p>I had to go to the BBC to find his quote in full.<br />
I could not find it in any major US new source.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Revkin</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/19/congrats-to-andy-revkin/#comment-19339</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Revkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I&#039;ve got to challenge you to find an example of &#039;faux balance&#039; in my climate stories that holds up to scrutiny. I try to write fair and accurate stories, not &quot;fair and balanced&quot; stories. 

I&#039;ve written two &lt;a href=&quot;http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/the-mania-for-a-front-page-thought-on-climate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;book chapters&lt;/a&gt; exploring journalism and &quot;slow drip&quot; climate and environment issues and carefully describe how to avoid the &quot;tyranny of balance.&quot; Again, start a list, here or on &lt;a href=&quot;http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dot Earth&lt;/a&gt;. (And thanks for the congrats, Joe.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#8217;ve got to challenge you to find an example of &#8216;faux balance&#8217; in my climate stories that holds up to scrutiny. I try to write fair and accurate stories, not &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; stories. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written two <a href="http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/the-mania-for-a-front-page-thought-on-climate/" rel="nofollow">book chapters</a> exploring journalism and &#8220;slow drip&#8221; climate and environment issues and carefully describe how to avoid the &#8220;tyranny of balance.&#8221; Again, start a list, here or on <a href="http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">Dot Earth</a>. (And thanks for the congrats, Joe.)</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/19/congrats-to-andy-revkin/#comment-19337</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or their jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or their jobs?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/09/19/congrats-to-andy-revkin/#comment-19336</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dano:

I&#039;m just a tooth grinding kind of guy these days, I guess.  But Dano, there&#039;s a certain circularity to your commnet.  It&#039;s Andy&#039;s job to inform people on this issue -- to give them knowledge -- yet you ask me to cool out because it&#039;s the uninformed masses who are at fault. 

Could it be that Andy and his cohorts aren&#039;t doing there jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dano:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a tooth grinding kind of guy these days, I guess.  But Dano, there&#8217;s a certain circularity to your commnet.  It&#8217;s Andy&#8217;s job to inform people on this issue &#8212; to give them knowledge &#8212; yet you ask me to cool out because it&#8217;s the uninformed masses who are at fault. </p>
<p>Could it be that Andy and his cohorts aren&#8217;t doing there jobs?</p>
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		<title>By: Dano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john, I think Andy tries to explain tough-to-grasp issues to the reg&#039;lur folk, not the motivated and informed. The result is expected, in my view. It&#039;s not the best, but it&#039;s among the best there is. Don&#039;t grind your teeth at Andy, grind your teeth at the state of knowledge of the masses. 

Best,

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john, I think Andy tries to explain tough-to-grasp issues to the reg&#8217;lur folk, not the motivated and informed. The result is expected, in my view. It&#8217;s not the best, but it&#8217;s among the best there is. Don&#8217;t grind your teeth at Andy, grind your teeth at the state of knowledge of the masses. </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be Churlish, but I find Andy to be infected with that &quot;on the one hand, this, on the other that&quot; faux balance that is rampant in journalism.   It&#039;s never good practice to substitute balance for truth and accuracy, and nowhere is it less appropriate than in science reporting.

I also find him to be a bit credulous -- his stance in reporting on needed breakthroughs, for instance, and he continually  misrepresents the cost of mitigating climate change ... If this is award winning journalism then we&#039;re in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be Churlish, but I find Andy to be infected with that &#8220;on the one hand, this, on the other that&#8221; faux balance that is rampant in journalism.   It&#8217;s never good practice to substitute balance for truth and accuracy, and nowhere is it less appropriate than in science reporting.</p>
<p>I also find him to be a bit credulous &#8212; his stance in reporting on needed breakthroughs, for instance, and he continually  misrepresents the cost of mitigating climate change &#8230; If this is award winning journalism then we&#8217;re in trouble.</p>
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