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	<title>Comments on: Bob Lutz does a Sarah Palin on global warming</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lutz is an idiot. I watched the 60 minutes program. This man owns planes and copters but can&#039;t get his nasty front teeth fixed. Moron. Beyond the obvious character flaws/limits, this stupid man has the audacity to waste any amount of time on the program discussing how they can have a CD with audio tracks of your favorite car sound given the lack of engine noise in the new volt. Not only is this juvenile, it demonstrates that this man has no business in the car business. Even mentioning such a ridiculous and trivial thing in these times of economic strife and utter theft by the likes of who he probably golfs with on a regular basis, it is both insulting and demeaning to the public. Lutz should be Sh*t canned now! The volt is going to be the worst product in the new line up of high efficiency vehicles. The vehicle&#039;s current MPG rating can be as low as 50MPG depending on distance driven. While I agree with a 40 mile range electric, and all the stats of how this will cover most people&#039;s driving habits, the reality is that there are many new players coming into the automotive business that are at least claiming that they will achieve 100mpg rating. And if that&#039;s not enough, there are kits that can convert existing parallel hybrids to plug-in and increased range leading so a similar 100mpg rating. All of the evidence, plus the likely 40K price tag for the volt leads to one big conclusion. GM will fail... AGAIN. Just look at their performance now! They are gettin pretty good at this! It&#039;s time GM&#039;s stockholders wake up. It&#039;s time to burn down the mission! Fire Lutz before it&#039;s too late! Get someone in there who can turn the volt project around before it&#039;s batteries are dead on arrival, or the sequel movie will be titled: &quot;The Electric car killed who??&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lutz is an idiot. I watched the 60 minutes program. This man owns planes and copters but can&#8217;t get his nasty front teeth fixed. Moron. Beyond the obvious character flaws/limits, this stupid man has the audacity to waste any amount of time on the program discussing how they can have a CD with audio tracks of your favorite car sound given the lack of engine noise in the new volt. Not only is this juvenile, it demonstrates that this man has no business in the car business. Even mentioning such a ridiculous and trivial thing in these times of economic strife and utter theft by the likes of who he probably golfs with on a regular basis, it is both insulting and demeaning to the public. Lutz should be Sh*t canned now! The volt is going to be the worst product in the new line up of high efficiency vehicles. The vehicle&#8217;s current MPG rating can be as low as 50MPG depending on distance driven. While I agree with a 40 mile range electric, and all the stats of how this will cover most people&#8217;s driving habits, the reality is that there are many new players coming into the automotive business that are at least claiming that they will achieve 100mpg rating. And if that&#8217;s not enough, there are kits that can convert existing parallel hybrids to plug-in and increased range leading so a similar 100mpg rating. All of the evidence, plus the likely 40K price tag for the volt leads to one big conclusion. GM will fail&#8230; AGAIN. Just look at their performance now! They are gettin pretty good at this! It&#8217;s time GM&#8217;s stockholders wake up. It&#8217;s time to burn down the mission! Fire Lutz before it&#8217;s too late! Get someone in there who can turn the volt project around before it&#8217;s batteries are dead on arrival, or the sequel movie will be titled: &#8220;The Electric car killed who??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Human history is full of doomsday scares that were eventually shown to be either grossly exaggerated or completely wrong. There is no reason to believe that the current hype over CO2 is any different. &quot;

Plenty of examples such as wild-eyed guys walking the sidewalk with &quot;The End is Neigh!&quot; signs, fears of invasions from Mars, yep, we got those.

How about some examples of &quot;doomsday scares&quot; that had the backing of the vast majority of experts in the field, all major scientific organizations, and the world&#039;s governments?

Oh, yeah, make sure those &quot;doomsday scares&quot; you site were also backed by solid data to prove that at one point they were well underway but failed.  

You know stuff like polar ice melting, glaciers retreating, vegetation moving higher up the mountains and further toward the poles, oceans rising, spring coming earlier, animals moving to previously cooler places, ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Human history is full of doomsday scares that were eventually shown to be either grossly exaggerated or completely wrong. There is no reason to believe that the current hype over CO2 is any different. &#8221;</p>
<p>Plenty of examples such as wild-eyed guys walking the sidewalk with &#8220;The End is Neigh!&#8221; signs, fears of invasions from Mars, yep, we got those.</p>
<p>How about some examples of &#8220;doomsday scares&#8221; that had the backing of the vast majority of experts in the field, all major scientific organizations, and the world&#8217;s governments?</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, make sure those &#8220;doomsday scares&#8221; you site were also backed by solid data to prove that at one point they were well underway but failed.  </p>
<p>You know stuff like polar ice melting, glaciers retreating, vegetation moving higher up the mountains and further toward the poles, oceans rising, spring coming earlier, animals moving to previously cooler places, &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: gaiasdaughter</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/06/bob-lutz-does-a-sarah-palin-on-global-warming/#comment-20237</link>
		<dc:creator>gaiasdaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raven, some disasters have been grossly exaggerated and others have not.  The vulnerability of New Orleans to hurricane damage is an example of a disaster that was not exaggerated; the Y2K anxiety is an example of one that was.  So the critical part of your statement is the &#039;there is no reason to believe&#039; part.  If you are convinced &#039;there is no reason to believe,&#039; I suggest you visit &quot;The Great Global Warming Debate&quot; at http://cce.890m.com/  If you really examine the evidence, you will find that there is every reason to believe this threat is real and the consequences of inaction could be very unpleasant and long lasting.  When you consider how much is at stake, ask yourself if there is a chance you could be wrong?  Wonderingmind42 has created a series of videos exploring the question of risk management as it relates to global climate change.  He side-steps the issue of &#039;is it real or is it not&#039; and looks at risks involved in taking action versus inaction.  His videos are catalogued at http://www.manpollo.org/  If none of this convinces you, have a look at the stream of scientific studies relating to the causes and effects of global warming as they are continuously summarized at Science Daily http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/earth_climate/global_warming/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven, some disasters have been grossly exaggerated and others have not.  The vulnerability of New Orleans to hurricane damage is an example of a disaster that was not exaggerated; the Y2K anxiety is an example of one that was.  So the critical part of your statement is the &#8216;there is no reason to believe&#8217; part.  If you are convinced &#8216;there is no reason to believe,&#8217; I suggest you visit &#8220;The Great Global Warming Debate&#8221; at <a href="http://cce.890m.com/" rel="nofollow">http://cce.890m.com/</a>  If you really examine the evidence, you will find that there is every reason to believe this threat is real and the consequences of inaction could be very unpleasant and long lasting.  When you consider how much is at stake, ask yourself if there is a chance you could be wrong?  Wonderingmind42 has created a series of videos exploring the question of risk management as it relates to global climate change.  He side-steps the issue of &#8216;is it real or is it not&#8217; and looks at risks involved in taking action versus inaction.  His videos are catalogued at <a href="http://www.manpollo.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.manpollo.org/</a>  If none of this convinces you, have a look at the stream of scientific studies relating to the causes and effects of global warming as they are continuously summarized at Science Daily <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/earth_climate/global_warming/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>news/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>earth_climate/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>global_warming/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War and past pandemics were not disasters &quot;predicted&quot; by doomsayers. They just happened. If you want to use disease as an example look at the BSE, SARS and bird flu scares - both turned out to be grossly exagerrated concerns after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War and past pandemics were not disasters &#8220;predicted&#8221; by doomsayers. They just happened. If you want to use disease as an example look at the BSE, SARS and bird flu scares &#8211; both turned out to be grossly exagerrated concerns after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: TomG</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/06/bob-lutz-does-a-sarah-palin-on-global-warming/#comment-20226</link>
		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last century had a few low spots.
Two World Wars, the 1918 Pandemic and I remember something called the Cuban Missile Crisis that was a &quot;doomsday&quot; that didn&#039;t happen, but came far too close for comfort....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last century had a few low spots.<br />
Two World Wars, the 1918 Pandemic and I remember something called the Cuban Missile Crisis that was a &#8220;doomsday&#8221; that didn&#8217;t happen, but came far too close for comfort&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hollenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hollenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Human history is full of doomsday scares that were eventually shown to be either grossly exaggerated or completely wrong. 

Perhaps you are thinking of the plague, which swept Europe in the 1400&#039;s and killed an estimated 75 million people.  Oops, I guess that would be a counterexample :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Human history is full of doomsday scares that were eventually shown to be either grossly exaggerated or completely wrong. </p>
<p>Perhaps you are thinking of the plague, which swept Europe in the 1400&#8217;s and killed an estimated 75 million people.  Oops, I guess that would be a counterexample <img src='http://climateprogress.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: arbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>arbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Shearer is behind this Sarah Palin music video &quot;Bridge to Nowhere&quot;:

http://www.mydamnchannel.com/Harry_Shearer/Music_Videos/PalinBridgeToNowhere_934.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Shearer is behind this Sarah Palin music video &#8220;Bridge to Nowhere&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydamnchannel.com/Harry_Shearer/Music_Videos/PalinBridgeToNowhere_934.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydamnchannel.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>Harry_Shearer/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>Music_Videos/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>PalinBridgeToNowhere_934.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lars Dahlager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Dahlager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think its pretty good news when a climate skeptic turns to electric cars out of pure necessity, see:   

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1841374-2,00.html

Lutz: &quot;Even as we face the Grim Reaper, we would still be spending money on the Volt.&quot; 

Thats commitment, so who cares whether he&#039;s a denier or not. The threat of global warming is not gonna win this game short term - self preservation is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think its pretty good news when a climate skeptic turns to electric cars out of pure necessity, see:   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1841374-2,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>time/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>business/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>article/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>0,8599,1841374-2,00.html</a></p>
<p>Lutz: &#8220;Even as we face the Grim Reaper, we would still be spending money on the Volt.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thats commitment, so who cares whether he&#8217;s a denier or not. The threat of global warming is not gonna win this game short term &#8211; self preservation is.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forget climate change for a moment; this guy&#039;s job relates to GM&#039;s balance sheet.

On that criteria alone, he has been a miserable failure. GM is getting killed right now, in large part because they are way behind in the R&amp;D pipeline to produce fuel-efficient vehicles.

So he should be fired immediately for that reason. The fact that he&#039;s an AGW denier isn&#039;t specifically related to his poor job performance, although it does give you an idea about his obstinance (he also claims to have been completely blindsided by rising gas prices, as if no one had ever predicted that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget climate change for a moment; this guy&#8217;s job relates to GM&#8217;s balance sheet.</p>
<p>On that criteria alone, he has been a miserable failure. GM is getting killed right now, in large part because they are way behind in the R&amp;D pipeline to produce fuel-efficient vehicles.</p>
<p>So he should be fired immediately for that reason. The fact that he&#8217;s an AGW denier isn&#8217;t specifically related to his poor job performance, although it does give you an idea about his obstinance (he also claims to have been completely blindsided by rising gas prices, as if no one had ever predicted that).</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human history is full of doomsday scares that were &lt;b&gt;real&lt;/b&gt; and shown to be either grossly &lt;b&gt;under&lt;/b&gt; exaggerated or completely &lt;b&gt;catastrophic! &lt;/b&gt;

The AGW Climate Change crisis is hurting already.

&lt;b&gt;Wall Street and the climate crisis&lt;/b&gt;
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/greenblog/2008/09/wall_street_and_the_climate_cr.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;
As we confront global climate change - perhaps the biggest challenge mankind has ever faced - business and government leaders have an opportunity to learn from the Wall Street debacle and get it right.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Direct Climate Change Action Now!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human history is full of doomsday scares that were <b>real</b> and shown to be either grossly <b>under</b> exaggerated or completely <b>catastrophic! </b></p>
<p>The AGW Climate Change crisis is hurting already.</p>
<p><b>Wall Street and the climate crisis</b><br />
<a href="http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/greenblog/2008/09/wall_street_and_the_climate_cr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>lifestyle/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>green/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>greenblog/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>09/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>wall_street_and_the_climate_cr.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
As we confront global climate change &#8211; perhaps the biggest challenge mankind has ever faced &#8211; business and government leaders have an opportunity to learn from the Wall Street debacle and get it right.
</p></blockquote>
<p><i>Direct Climate Change Action Now!</i></p>
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