Comments on: Obama to declare CO2 a dangerous pollutant http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:18:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Howard Christensen http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-39976 Howard Christensen Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:06:09 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-39976 Man caused global warming is a myth and a method for the Obama adminstration to make a grab for more power over the public. Thousands of scientists have said it is phoney science based on bad models and phoney data. This myth is the far left's key to Socialism in the US! None dare call it treason. Man caused global warming is a myth and a method for the Obama adminstration to make a grab for more power over the public. Thousands of scientists have said it is phoney science based on bad models and phoney data.

This myth is the far left’s key to Socialism in the US!

None dare call it treason.

]]> By: Rod Adams http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20728 Rod Adams Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:19:24 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20728 @paulm - There is a link to my analysis - but I will warn you, it will take a fair amount of reading. The issue is pretty complicated. You can start at http://atomicinsights.blogspot.com. There are more than 900 posts there going back over four years. If you want to go back farther, you can visit http://www.atomicinsights.com which has articles and analysis going back to 1995. It is impossible to produce a single, comprehensive article that details all of the financial, engineering, and technical reasons why nuclear fission power is superior to all other choices. Please understand, however, that I do not limit my understanding of nuclear fission power production methods to standard, light water, central station power plants that take 10-15 years to license and construct. There are other choices and even ways to improve upon the performance of LWRs. @paulm – There is a link to my analysis – but I will warn you, it will take a fair amount of reading. The issue is pretty complicated. You can start at http://atomicinsights.blogspot.com. There are more than 900 posts there going back over four years. If you want to go back farther, you can visit http://www.atomicinsights.com which has articles and analysis going back to 1995.

It is impossible to produce a single, comprehensive article that details all of the financial, engineering, and technical reasons why nuclear fission power is superior to all other choices.

Please understand, however, that I do not limit my understanding of nuclear fission power production methods to standard, light water, central station power plants that take 10-15 years to license and construct. There are other choices and even ways to improve upon the performance of LWRs.

]]> By: shopa http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20701 shopa Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:59:29 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20701 America will need low cost, fuel efficient cars for the legions of people who will soon be poorer. America also needs to burn less gasoline to fight climate change. Kei cars are a special class of cars in Japan. They are limited to an engine size of 660cc and have vehicle size, but not weight, restrictions. They are made by many different Japanese car companies and they are mature designs that are reliable, and get up to 60 mpg. They can cost less than $10,000. However, they cannot be driven in the U.S. because they don't meet collision safety requirements. I believe that adding my crumple box invention to a Kei car will allow it to pass U.S. collision safety requirements. See my website www.safersmallcars.com Please help me get some evaluation of my ideas. America will need low cost, fuel efficient cars for the legions of people who will soon be poorer. America also needs to burn less gasoline to fight climate change.

Kei cars are a special class of cars in Japan. They are limited to an engine size of 660cc and have vehicle size, but not weight, restrictions. They are made by many different Japanese car companies and they are mature designs that are reliable, and get up to 60 mpg. They can cost less than $10,000.
However, they cannot be driven in the U.S. because they don’t meet collision safety requirements.

I believe that adding my crumple box invention to a Kei car will allow it to pass U.S. collision safety requirements. See my website http://www.safersmallcars.com
Please help me get some evaluation of my ideas.

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20697 paulm Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:06:57 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20697 Great speeches. However, Obama showed why people were a little uneasy about him...a bit too much focus on himself. Could we be in for an iPresident? "Al Smith Dinner: Obama, McCain Trade Jokes During Speeches" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/al-smith-dinner-obama-mcc_n_135455.html#postComment Great speeches.

However, Obama showed why people were a little uneasy about him…a bit too much focus on himself.

Could we be in for an iPresident?

“Al Smith Dinner: Obama, McCain Trade Jokes During Speeches”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 10/ 16/ al-smith-dinner-obama-mcc_n_135455.html#postComment

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20692 paulm Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:01:19 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20692 Rod is there a link to your analysis? Would like to review. Most other analysis shows that Nuclear is not the answer, even in the short term. Rod is there a link to your analysis? Would like to review. Most other analysis shows that Nuclear is not the answer, even in the short term.

]]> By: Rod Adams http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20678 Rod Adams Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:23:42 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20678 Joe - is there any reason why this action would not apply to the existing US coal fired power plants that currently release about 4 billion tons of CO2 each year? I know that you and I are diametrically opposed with regard to our opinion about the utility of new nuclear power plants to contribute to the climate change challenge, but I think we both agree that burning coal is a major problem that needs to be addressed. If we do not do anything about internalizing the societal cost of burning coal in the existing plants, then we lock ourselves into a few more decades of excessive emissions that could be reduced. (My analysis shows me that nuclear power offers an economic solution already, but this would help the bankers understand more fully the advantages of investing in new plants.) Joe – is there any reason why this action would not apply to the existing US coal fired power plants that currently release about 4 billion tons of CO2 each year? I know that you and I are diametrically opposed with regard to our opinion about the utility of new nuclear power plants to contribute to the climate change challenge, but I think we both agree that burning coal is a major problem that needs to be addressed.

If we do not do anything about internalizing the societal cost of burning coal in the existing plants, then we lock ourselves into a few more decades of excessive emissions that could be reduced.

(My analysis shows me that nuclear power offers an economic solution already, but this would help the bankers understand more fully the advantages of investing in new plants.)

]]> By: thingsbreak http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20641 thingsbreak Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:47:31 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20641 Wow. That's HUGE. Way to put the lie to camp McCain. Wow. That’s HUGE. Way to put the lie to camp McCain.

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20640 paulm Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:39:24 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20640 Rick were just going to have to suck it up! Rick were just going to have to suck it up!

]]> By: Joe http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20637 Joe Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:47:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20637 The plan has been spelled out on this website, and by many others, including Obama: Energy efficiency, wind, solar PV, and solar baseload. And if you are worried about outages, then you want conservation-driven demand response programs. The plan has been spelled out on this website, and by many others, including Obama: Energy efficiency, wind, solar PV, and solar baseload. And if you are worried about outages, then you want conservation-driven demand response programs.

]]> By: Anonymous http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20633 Anonymous Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:31:48 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/#comment-20633 Rick, there is no plan. We, as a nation, are making it all up as we go along. The captain is nowhere to be found and his lieutenants are cashing in their 401ks and heading out of town. Its all up to Sentor Obama to put the wheels back on. John McCormick Rick, there is no plan. We, as a nation, are making it all up as we go along. The captain is nowhere to be found and his lieutenants are cashing in their 401ks and heading out of town.

Its all up to Sentor Obama to put the wheels back on.

John McCormick

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