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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-69669</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that no one has added the plant-based diet to your solutions. I think you must understand that there simply isn&#039;t time for the type of technological changes needed. 

Part of the problem is the way we are accounting for methane in the Co2 &quot;equal&quot; system. In practical terms, it weighs more than double what it&#039;s recognised. We need to update the GWP of methane to reflect reality. Then we need to get s*h*i*t* scared and make some really effective climate policy aimed at diet (it&#039;s only healthier to eat less animal products anyway so it will be like patting two birds with one hand). 

At the very least this solution should be presented in your list and the lists of others. Realistically, everyone should be informed that the best thing they can do to ensure the continuation of humanity on earth would be to eat a plant-based diet. 

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/060413.diet.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that no one has added the plant-based diet to your solutions. I think you must understand that there simply isn&#8217;t time for the type of technological changes needed. </p>
<p>Part of the problem is the way we are accounting for methane in the Co2 &#8220;equal&#8221; system. In practical terms, it weighs more than double what it&#8217;s recognised. We need to update the GWP of methane to reflect reality. Then we need to get s*h*i*t* scared and make some really effective climate policy aimed at diet (it&#8217;s only healthier to eat less animal products anyway so it will be like patting two birds with one hand). </p>
<p>At the very least this solution should be presented in your list and the lists of others. Realistically, everyone should be informed that the best thing they can do to ensure the continuation of humanity on earth would be to eat a plant-based diet. </p>
<p><a href="http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/060413.diet.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/060413.diet.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bostick</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-42653</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advocates of biomass have forgotten about the myriad advantages of industrial hemp as a solution for much of what causes global warming.

Talk to an industrial hemp expert. Someone who can explain how we can get 500 gallons of fuel from and acre of land and that we can get all of our transportation and heating and cooling energy from industrial hemp within the next three years if crises management techniques are employed.

We don’t have to sacrifice land used for food crops. We in the U.S., can use land in the Soil Bank, we can also use some of the 500 million uncultivated acres in America, and do so with no pesticides or herbicides or chemical fertilizers, and we can grow hemp... harvest after harvest on the same land. Rotation not needed. And, in warmer climates get three to four harvests per year.

We could eliminate all the raping of our forests and their ecological systems because hemp was the world’s first paper. We shut down hundreds of coal fired plants, eliminate the desacration of mountain tops, prevent the fools’ errand of pumping CO2 underground, and eliminate the constant seepage of CO2 and NO into the atmosphere from pipelines and drilling sites. 

Moreover, the buildup of methane hydrates would be eliminated and less methane (20-30 times more powerful than CO2 as a warming agent) would seep into the atmosphere as oil drilling ceased.

Ya, get someone who really knows how in the next year we could plant 140-150 million acres to industrial hemp and solve so many of our ecological, environmental, energy and economic problems. Look at the jobs that would create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advocates of biomass have forgotten about the myriad advantages of industrial hemp as a solution for much of what causes global warming.</p>
<p>Talk to an industrial hemp expert. Someone who can explain how we can get 500 gallons of fuel from and acre of land and that we can get all of our transportation and heating and cooling energy from industrial hemp within the next three years if crises management techniques are employed.</p>
<p>We don’t have to sacrifice land used for food crops. We in the U.S., can use land in the Soil Bank, we can also use some of the 500 million uncultivated acres in America, and do so with no pesticides or herbicides or chemical fertilizers, and we can grow hemp&#8230; harvest after harvest on the same land. Rotation not needed. And, in warmer climates get three to four harvests per year.</p>
<p>We could eliminate all the raping of our forests and their ecological systems because hemp was the world’s first paper. We shut down hundreds of coal fired plants, eliminate the desacration of mountain tops, prevent the fools’ errand of pumping CO2 underground, and eliminate the constant seepage of CO2 and NO into the atmosphere from pipelines and drilling sites. </p>
<p>Moreover, the buildup of methane hydrates would be eliminated and less methane (20-30 times more powerful than CO2 as a warming agent) would seep into the atmosphere as oil drilling ceased.</p>
<p>Ya, get someone who really knows how in the next year we could plant 140-150 million acres to industrial hemp and solve so many of our ecological, environmental, energy and economic problems. Look at the jobs that would create.</p>
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		<title>By: dougo</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-34800</link>
		<dc:creator>dougo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget improved forest management, which has significant potential for climate mitigate, but it also has a whole greenwashing industry devoted to misinformation, trying to justify business as usual, short-rotation clearcutting as climate friendly. e.g., http://www.rethinkforests.com/

Here is a slide show clarifying many misconceptions about forests, logging, and carbon:
http://www.slideshare.net/dougoh/forest-carbon-climate-myths-presentation/
(For full effect click &quot;full&quot; in the lower right.)

Here is a more detailed foot-noted report on forests, carbon and climate change:
http://tinyurl.com/2n96m5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget improved forest management, which has significant potential for climate mitigate, but it also has a whole greenwashing industry devoted to misinformation, trying to justify business as usual, short-rotation clearcutting as climate friendly. e.g., <a href="http://www.rethinkforests.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rethinkforests.com/</a></p>
<p>Here is a slide show clarifying many misconceptions about forests, logging, and carbon:<br />
<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/dougoh/forest-carbon-climate-myths-presentation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>dougoh/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>forest-carbon-climate-myths-presentation/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a><br />
(For full effect click &#8220;full&#8221; in the lower right.)</p>
<p>Here is a more detailed foot-noted report on forests, carbon and climate change:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2n96m5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2n96m5</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard J. Belshaw</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-34094</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard J. Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/16/709021/-What-happens-if-we-delay-removal-of-atmospheric-or-oceanic-CO2-by-8-years-and-by-how-much
James Hansen is advocated a move back towards 350 ppm at ground level,  the link above , also at www.greenparty.ca  under bloggers under my name,  lists a several year old blog about climate solutions.....
Now people are advocating using aneutronic fusion, like bussard fusion to get rid of coal and natural gas plants, and power cities with boron plus proton fusion to excited carbon, then to beryllium, and final products are three heliums,  and no neutron radiation,  but 8.5 million electon -Joules out for a small amount in.
The post discusses if we use this technolgy to sequester liquid CO2 in safe trenches in the deep ocean,  from the southern saturated ocean,  which follows the Revelle factor and Henry&#039;s law and allows us to achieve efficiency estimates of 1 million over pumping air and separating Co2 from air compared to the efficiency of pumping up water from 100m to 500 metres down and letting it off gas in controlled conditions, then liquify and transport to a safe trench.  The ocean circulation currents are key to this discussion, as are the geography and location of the safe trenches.  With these two processes in place,  around 2018 we can avoid going much above 400 ppm and can steadily reduce ppm to 350 ppm re James Hansen.  this would save the web of life incluiding the plankton and krill in the oceans,  which will really go extinct around 450 ppm as the ocean becomes too acidic and the calcium carbonate buffer starts to break down from insufficient calcium carbonate.  I recommend most of your core solutions, in parallel and  also remember the deep ocean only connects with the atmosphere between 100 and 500 years form now,  if we sequester in downwelling areas that do not have volcanic and thermal vent or earthquake activity for longer periods of time, there should be little movement from the trenches of liquid CO2.
I will be updating the tables to reflect the Revelle factor, pH, alkalinity and the calcium carbonate buffer.  But at the moment it is reasonable,  but will become more accurate.  There is a spreadsheet available as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/16/709021/-What-happens-if-we-delay-removal-of-atmospheric-or-oceanic-CO2-by-8-years-and-by-how-much" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>story/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>3/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>16/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>709021/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>-What-happens-if-we-delay-removal-of-atmospheric-or-oceanic-CO2-by-8-years-and-by-how-much</a><br />
James Hansen is advocated a move back towards 350 ppm at ground level,  the link above , also at <a href="http://www.greenparty.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenparty.ca</a>  under bloggers under my name,  lists a several year old blog about climate solutions&#8230;..<br />
Now people are advocating using aneutronic fusion, like bussard fusion to get rid of coal and natural gas plants, and power cities with boron plus proton fusion to excited carbon, then to beryllium, and final products are three heliums,  and no neutron radiation,  but 8.5 million electon -Joules out for a small amount in.<br />
The post discusses if we use this technolgy to sequester liquid CO2 in safe trenches in the deep ocean,  from the southern saturated ocean,  which follows the Revelle factor and Henry&#8217;s law and allows us to achieve efficiency estimates of 1 million over pumping air and separating Co2 from air compared to the efficiency of pumping up water from 100m to 500 metres down and letting it off gas in controlled conditions, then liquify and transport to a safe trench.  The ocean circulation currents are key to this discussion, as are the geography and location of the safe trenches.  With these two processes in place,  around 2018 we can avoid going much above 400 ppm and can steadily reduce ppm to 350 ppm re James Hansen.  this would save the web of life incluiding the plankton and krill in the oceans,  which will really go extinct around 450 ppm as the ocean becomes too acidic and the calcium carbonate buffer starts to break down from insufficient calcium carbonate.  I recommend most of your core solutions, in parallel and  also remember the deep ocean only connects with the atmosphere between 100 and 500 years form now,  if we sequester in downwelling areas that do not have volcanic and thermal vent or earthquake activity for longer periods of time, there should be little movement from the trenches of liquid CO2.<br />
I will be updating the tables to reflect the Revelle factor, pH, alkalinity and the calcium carbonate buffer.  But at the moment it is reasonable,  but will become more accurate.  There is a spreadsheet available as well.</p>
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		<title>By: uçak bileti</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-33872</link>
		<dc:creator>uçak bileti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>realy thanks for posting. i like this Joe. It’s definitely helpful as a resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realy thanks for posting. i like this Joe. It’s definitely helpful as a resource.</p>
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		<title>By: aafisher</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-32106</link>
		<dc:creator>aafisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another wedge:

Women&#039;s access to reproductive health care and non-coercive family planning. One could write a book and many, such as Robert Engleman of Worldwatch Institute, already have. 

Suffice it to say that as women&#039;s health goes, so goes the health of the planet. All of our solutions won&#039;t add up to much if there are too many of us. Overpopulation only exacerbates everything else.

Historically women have limited fertility  when the option is available, so this is not exactly based on changing behavior. Modern birth control is based on modern medical technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another wedge:</p>
<p>Women&#8217;s access to reproductive health care and non-coercive family planning. One could write a book and many, such as Robert Engleman of Worldwatch Institute, already have. </p>
<p>Suffice it to say that as women&#8217;s health goes, so goes the health of the planet. All of our solutions won&#8217;t add up to much if there are too many of us. Overpopulation only exacerbates everything else.</p>
<p>Historically women have limited fertility  when the option is available, so this is not exactly based on changing behavior. Modern birth control is based on modern medical technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-31971</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe

I just stumbled on your blog after reading Friedman&#039;s article in the NYT.
One thing I&#039;m looking for are suggestions how an individual can help prevent carbon emissions. Simple suggestions about what to do in daily life.

I&#039;m sure there are a ton of such lists out there but it would be nice to have some suggestions from an expert like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe</p>
<p>I just stumbled on your blog after reading Friedman&#8217;s article in the NYT.<br />
One thing I&#8217;m looking for are suggestions how an individual can help prevent carbon emissions. Simple suggestions about what to do in daily life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are a ton of such lists out there but it would be nice to have some suggestions from an expert like you.</p>
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		<title>By: vivek</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-30358</link>
		<dc:creator>vivek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey..

great list of resources 
Off recent i came across a road tour, dedicated to climate change and creating awareness. I guess these links should interest you. 
http://www.indiaclimatesolutions.com/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey..</p>
<p>great list of resources<br />
Off recent i came across a road tour, dedicated to climate change and creating awareness. I guess these links should interest you.<br />
<a href="http://www.indiaclimatesolutions.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.indiaclimatesolutions.com/blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wilmot McCutchen</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-30144</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilmot McCutchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pulverized coal plants provide most of the baseload power for our modern conveniences, such as TV and electric cars.  Natural gas, nuclear and hydro account for nearly all of the rest.  Solar and wind are too unreliable for baseload power (because they are intermittent, with no energy storage) and in any case make a tiny contribution -- together, about 1%.  

We&#039;re stuck with pulverized coal plants for the near term, and it is in the near term (before 2050) that solutions must be found and massively deployed worldwide to reduce CO2 emissions.  Simple and high volume (i.e. non-chemical and non-compression) post-combustion carbon capture and dissociation or mineralization should therefore be the top priority.  Biofuels, IGCC, hydrogen cars, solar, wind, geothermal, tidal, etc. may make some contribution some day, but they can&#039;t be the near term solution for the world&#039;s energy demand, and dollars spent on them are not going to the top priority.  Here is one idea, for mechanical carbon capture by a novel gas centrifuge: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090013867 

Conservation is a great goal, and an immediate necessity, but few Americans are aware and austere enough to cut back, and the rest are easily persuaded by the deniers that no conservation is necessary.  So don&#039;t count on public education and conservation to save us.

Outside the US, in China and India, pulverized coal is what keeps the lights on, and expecting them to give up modern living to save the polar bears is not realistic, especially when they see the opulent and wasteful Americans doing nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pulverized coal plants provide most of the baseload power for our modern conveniences, such as TV and electric cars.  Natural gas, nuclear and hydro account for nearly all of the rest.  Solar and wind are too unreliable for baseload power (because they are intermittent, with no energy storage) and in any case make a tiny contribution &#8212; together, about 1%.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re stuck with pulverized coal plants for the near term, and it is in the near term (before 2050) that solutions must be found and massively deployed worldwide to reduce CO2 emissions.  Simple and high volume (i.e. non-chemical and non-compression) post-combustion carbon capture and dissociation or mineralization should therefore be the top priority.  Biofuels, IGCC, hydrogen cars, solar, wind, geothermal, tidal, etc. may make some contribution some day, but they can&#8217;t be the near term solution for the world&#8217;s energy demand, and dollars spent on them are not going to the top priority.  Here is one idea, for mechanical carbon capture by a novel gas centrifuge: <a href="http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090013867" rel="nofollow">http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090013867</a> </p>
<p>Conservation is a great goal, and an immediate necessity, but few Americans are aware and austere enough to cut back, and the rest are easily persuaded by the deniers that no conservation is necessary.  So don&#8217;t count on public education and conservation to save us.</p>
<p>Outside the US, in China and India, pulverized coal is what keeps the lights on, and expecting them to give up modern living to save the polar bears is not realistic, especially when they see the opulent and wasteful Americans doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/22/an-introduction-to-the-core-climate-solutions/#comment-29236</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I suggest you consider another wedge - reducing emissions of Synthetic Greenhouse Gases (or as I prefer to call them PIGGS - Potent Industrial Greenhouse Gases)? Although much overlooked, these are a significant and very rapidly growing slice of the emissions pie.

CFCs and HCFCs are at least 12% of the &#039;stock&#039; of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and there is much that can be done to reclaim emissions of these gases before they are released from the installed bank of existing equipment.

Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) are around 2% of the annual &#039;flow&#039; of emissions, and are forecast to grow very rapidly in the abscence of concerted efforts to prevent them replacing the ozone depleting CFCs and HCFCs by using natural refrigerants such as ammonia, carbon dioxide and hydrocarbons instead. These genuinely climate friendly solutions are well proven, widely available in some markets (such as Europe), and in need of rapid expansion throughout the world. SF6, PFCs and NF3 are also gases that have no place in a safe climate, and require much greater attention.

There are efforts to seek much greater action on PIGGS from the Montreal and Kyoto Protocols that are well documented at http://www.eia-international.org/campaigns/global_environment/reports/ 

I would be very grateful for any comments on the importance of addressing these issues by taking on the largely US based fluorochemical industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I suggest you consider another wedge &#8211; reducing emissions of Synthetic Greenhouse Gases (or as I prefer to call them PIGGS &#8211; Potent Industrial Greenhouse Gases)? Although much overlooked, these are a significant and very rapidly growing slice of the emissions pie.</p>
<p>CFCs and HCFCs are at least 12% of the &#8217;stock&#8217; of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and there is much that can be done to reclaim emissions of these gases before they are released from the installed bank of existing equipment.</p>
<p>Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) are around 2% of the annual &#8216;flow&#8217; of emissions, and are forecast to grow very rapidly in the abscence of concerted efforts to prevent them replacing the ozone depleting CFCs and HCFCs by using natural refrigerants such as ammonia, carbon dioxide and hydrocarbons instead. These genuinely climate friendly solutions are well proven, widely available in some markets (such as Europe), and in need of rapid expansion throughout the world. SF6, PFCs and NF3 are also gases that have no place in a safe climate, and require much greater attention.</p>
<p>There are efforts to seek much greater action on PIGGS from the Montreal and Kyoto Protocols that are well documented at <a href="http://www.eia-international.org/campaigns/global_environment/reports/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eia-international.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>campaigns/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>global_environment/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>reports/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a> </p>
<p>I would be very grateful for any comments on the importance of addressing these issues by taking on the largely US based fluorochemical industry.</p>
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