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	<title>Comments on: Palin shocker, Part 1:  McCain won&#8217;t regulate greenhouse gas emissions</title>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/29/palin-shocker-part-1-mccain-wont-regulate-greenhouse-gas-emissions/#comment-21212</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and re &quot;the practice only serves to confuse voters.&quot; Pew has it on their good polloing that 40% of McCain supporters think he supports solar and wind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and re &#8220;the practice only serves to confuse voters.&#8221; Pew has it on their good polloing that 40% of McCain supporters think he supports solar and wind</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modesty, that is a good argument:(#3 for Boxer),...quite reassuring actually. 

(But only because I can tally absolutely no way for McCain to get 270 electoral votes per www.electoral-vote.com) otherwise I would be freaking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modesty, that is a good argument:(#3 for Boxer),&#8230;quite reassuring actually. </p>
<p>(But only because I can tally absolutely no way for McCain to get 270 electoral votes per <a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.electoral-vote.com</a>) otherwise I would be freaking out.</p>
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		<title>By: Modesty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Modesty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan--

False balance
1. As you know, the media perpetuate the “Both Obama and Mccain…” myth because of the false balance practice (and because this false balance is reinforced as per below). 

(I know you are not asking about the media, but bear with me.)

Vanity
2. Many scientists, policy experts, authors, and other authoritative voices perpetuate the same myth because they are more concerned with not appearing biased than they are with not actually perpetuating a bias by overcompensating for their own political position, this is the vanity practice.

It&#039;s mainstream! Everyone is doing it!
3. Additionally, many advocates, campaigners, and policy makers perpetuate this myth to give cover to Obama because they believe that progressive energy policy is a political liability; this is the make-climate-policy-seem-mainstream practice.

This everyone-is-doing-it practice is tricky, because if support for climate policy is actually stronger than the practitioners think, the practice only serves to confuse voters. (See Gingrich, Couch)

We&#039;re nowhere near where we need to be!
Even trickier, the myth is also perpetuated by those who don’t believe in false balance, have no interest in vanity, do not think progressive energy policy is a political liability, but simply think that, despite the very real and important differences between the candidates, neither one of them is anywhere near where they need to be. (See Hansen, James)

I don’t know Boxer’s earlier statements in this context, but I’m actually a bit sympathetic to her perpetuating this myth, at this time. 

With McCain having chosen a bona fide fossil fool for a running mate, those who are actually basing their vote on energy, in the sense of voting for the more progressive candidate because of that candidate’s position on energy, has &quot;got to be&quot; voting for Obama. 

BOXER&#039;S job at this stage, arguably, is not to get those votes for Obama, it is to prevent some of those for whom fossil energy is still a kind of security blanket from voting AGAINST Obama on the basis of his climate policy as presented by Palin/McCain.

Which is not to say that that is everyone&#039;s job at this stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan&#8211;</p>
<p>False balance<br />
1. As you know, the media perpetuate the “Both Obama and Mccain…” myth because of the false balance practice (and because this false balance is reinforced as per below). </p>
<p>(I know you are not asking about the media, but bear with me.)</p>
<p>Vanity<br />
2. Many scientists, policy experts, authors, and other authoritative voices perpetuate the same myth because they are more concerned with not appearing biased than they are with not actually perpetuating a bias by overcompensating for their own political position, this is the vanity practice.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s mainstream! Everyone is doing it!<br />
3. Additionally, many advocates, campaigners, and policy makers perpetuate this myth to give cover to Obama because they believe that progressive energy policy is a political liability; this is the make-climate-policy-seem-mainstream practice.</p>
<p>This everyone-is-doing-it practice is tricky, because if support for climate policy is actually stronger than the practitioners think, the practice only serves to confuse voters. (See Gingrich, Couch)</p>
<p>We&#8217;re nowhere near where we need to be!<br />
Even trickier, the myth is also perpetuated by those who don’t believe in false balance, have no interest in vanity, do not think progressive energy policy is a political liability, but simply think that, despite the very real and important differences between the candidates, neither one of them is anywhere near where they need to be. (See Hansen, James)</p>
<p>I don’t know Boxer’s earlier statements in this context, but I’m actually a bit sympathetic to her perpetuating this myth, at this time. </p>
<p>With McCain having chosen a bona fide fossil fool for a running mate, those who are actually basing their vote on energy, in the sense of voting for the more progressive candidate because of that candidate’s position on energy, has &#8220;got to be&#8221; voting for Obama. </p>
<p>BOXER&#8217;S job at this stage, arguably, is not to get those votes for Obama, it is to prevent some of those for whom fossil energy is still a kind of security blanket from voting AGAINST Obama on the basis of his climate policy as presented by Palin/McCain.</p>
<p>Which is not to say that that is everyone&#8217;s job at this stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Hallowell</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/29/palin-shocker-part-1-mccain-wont-regulate-greenhouse-gas-emissions/#comment-21199</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Hallowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting piece!  Climate change is only one of the many issues of concern awaiting the next American president.  With the earth’s temperature increasing and with pressure mounting for the creation and use of more viable energy sources, there is much to be done.  Yesterday, we published a quick guide entitled “Seven Things You Need to Know About Climate Change.”  Please check it out at http://publicagenda.org/blogs/voters-survival-kit-seven-things-you-need-know-about-climate-change.  As part of our Voter’s Survival Kit we also produced an excellent non-partisan guide on climate change at http://publicagenda.org/citizen/electionguides/climatechange.  Again, excellent piece!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece!  Climate change is only one of the many issues of concern awaiting the next American president.  With the earth’s temperature increasing and with pressure mounting for the creation and use of more viable energy sources, there is much to be done.  Yesterday, we published a quick guide entitled “Seven Things You Need to Know About Climate Change.”  Please check it out at <a href="http://publicagenda.org/blogs/voters-survival-kit-seven-things-you-need-know-about-climate-change" rel="nofollow">http://publicagenda.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>blogs/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>voters-survival-kit-seven-things-you-need-know-about-climate-change</a>.  As part of our Voter’s Survival Kit we also produced an excellent non-partisan guide on climate change at <a href="http://publicagenda.org/citizen/electionguides/climatechange" rel="nofollow">http://publicagenda.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>citizen/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>electionguides/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>climatechange</a>.  Again, excellent piece!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/29/palin-shocker-part-1-mccain-wont-regulate-greenhouse-gas-emissions/#comment-21195</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read your baffling comment by Boxer first, and then this very comprehensive listing of all the evidence that energy legislation will not be the same regardless of whether Obama or McCain is president.

Thank God it looks like Obama will win, but whatever possessed Boxer to say that they are equally likely to pass climate legislation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read your baffling comment by Boxer first, and then this very comprehensive listing of all the evidence that energy legislation will not be the same regardless of whether Obama or McCain is president.</p>
<p>Thank God it looks like Obama will win, but whatever possessed Boxer to say that they are equally likely to pass climate legislation?</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Santos</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/10/29/palin-shocker-part-1-mccain-wont-regulate-greenhouse-gas-emissions/#comment-21183</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe; Great Work. This blog, for me, has become essential daily reading, and I regularly distribute your pieces widely. Thank you. As madmen go, McCain leaves the long-ago Goldwater in the dust, and in sheer will to ignorance, rivals GW Bush.

Juan Santos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe; Great Work. This blog, for me, has become essential daily reading, and I regularly distribute your pieces widely. Thank you. As madmen go, McCain leaves the long-ago Goldwater in the dust, and in sheer will to ignorance, rivals GW Bush.</p>
<p>Juan Santos</p>
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		<title>By: crf</title>
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		<dc:creator>crf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is one very oblique phrase on global warming in McCain&#039;s convention acceptance speech:

&quot;We must use all resources and develop all technologies necessary to rescue our economy from the damage caused by rising oil prices and to restore the health of our planet.&quot;

Certainly no one could call that straight talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is one very oblique phrase on global warming in McCain&#8217;s convention acceptance speech:</p>
<p>&#8220;We must use all resources and develop all technologies necessary to rescue our economy from the damage caused by rising oil prices and to restore the health of our planet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly no one could call that straight talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Galliani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Galliani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - You&#039;ve done a superbly comprehensive and devastatingly honest assessment of what can only be called McCain&#039;s complete surrender and capitulation on the issue of greenhouse gas reduction.  He won&#039;t regulate CO2 because he&#039;s a sell out on the environment and he always has been.  His straight talk has never matched his crooked actions.

Combined with McCain&#039;s support for &quot;drill baby, drill&quot; policies and his embrace of more coal use, there can be no doubt that McCain&#039;s real goal is to increase carbon production and the temperature of the planet along with it.  No other conclusion can be drawn from the impact of his policies and the reality of the world&#039;s current climate condition.  Perhaps he thinks he won&#039;t feel the difference in Arizona.

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going too far to say a vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for suicide and insanity.  Fortunately neither is polling too high in this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; You&#8217;ve done a superbly comprehensive and devastatingly honest assessment of what can only be called McCain&#8217;s complete surrender and capitulation on the issue of greenhouse gas reduction.  He won&#8217;t regulate CO2 because he&#8217;s a sell out on the environment and he always has been.  His straight talk has never matched his crooked actions.</p>
<p>Combined with McCain&#8217;s support for &#8220;drill baby, drill&#8221; policies and his embrace of more coal use, there can be no doubt that McCain&#8217;s real goal is to increase carbon production and the temperature of the planet along with it.  No other conclusion can be drawn from the impact of his policies and the reality of the world&#8217;s current climate condition.  Perhaps he thinks he won&#8217;t feel the difference in Arizona.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going too far to say a vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for suicide and insanity.  Fortunately neither is polling too high in this election.</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More hilarious Republican Socialism...

Olbermann: Sarah Palin Is A Socialist
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/olbermann-sarah-palin-is_n_138765.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More hilarious Republican Socialism&#8230;</p>
<p>Olbermann: Sarah Palin Is A Socialist<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/olbermann-sarah-palin-is_n_138765.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>10/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>28/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>olbermann-sarah-palin-is_n_138765.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter what she says. Won&#039;t get elected this cycle, and in &#039;12 if she can&#039;t get defeated with this tainted record, then there&#039;s no hope. Toast.

Best,

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter what she says. Won&#8217;t get elected this cycle, and in &#8216;12 if she can&#8217;t get defeated with this tainted record, then there&#8217;s no hope. Toast.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>D</p>
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