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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22558</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DNJ:  Got no idea what you are talking about?  I have plenty of bets out there already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNJ:  Got no idea what you are talking about?  I have plenty of bets out there already.</p>
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		<title>By: Definitely_Not_Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22555</link>
		<dc:creator>Definitely_Not_Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

What&#039;s the point in betting if you will ban whoever bets against? It would be a bit difficult to get the money later. I talk from personal experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point in betting if you will ban whoever bets against? It would be a bit difficult to get the money later. I talk from personal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22509</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On June 2, 2008, Clarendon, TX had 107 degrees f followed by 103 degrees on the 3rd and 105 on the 4th of June 2008. Global warming is here to stay for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On June 2, 2008, Clarendon, TX had 107 degrees f followed by 103 degrees on the 3rd and 105 on the 4th of June 2008. Global warming is here to stay for some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22409</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then you&#039;d be happy to bet that the next decade won&#039;t be warmer than this decade.  $1000 anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you&#8217;d be happy to bet that the next decade won&#8217;t be warmer than this decade.  $1000 anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Definitely_Not_Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22406</link>
		<dc:creator>Definitely_Not_Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(It also means that 8 of the, so far, 10 months of registered temperatures in 2008 were below that average, and in some cases, quite far below).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(It also means that 8 of the, so far, 10 months of registered temperatures in 2008 were below that average, and in some cases, quite far below).</p>
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		<title>By: Definitely_Not_Joe</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22404</link>
		<dc:creator>Definitely_Not_Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe wrote: &quot;it is worth noting that now the last two months and three of the last four have had a pretty big temperature anomaly&quot;

I thought it may be worth noting that these three-out-of-four-months&#039; anomalies are, according to GISS, +0.52 (July), +0.50 (September) and +0.55 (October) degrees. And that the average monthly anomaly for the last 6 years (i.e. since October 2002) according to the same source was +0.527. So, the worst that you can say is that these especially hot months (compared with the rest of the months in 2008) are just in line with the average anomaly of the last 6 years. Which is hardly an indication of an incoming warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe wrote: &#8220;it is worth noting that now the last two months and three of the last four have had a pretty big temperature anomaly&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought it may be worth noting that these three-out-of-four-months&#8217; anomalies are, according to GISS, +0.52 (July), +0.50 (September) and +0.55 (October) degrees. And that the average monthly anomaly for the last 6 years (i.e. since October 2002) according to the same source was +0.527. So, the worst that you can say is that these especially hot months (compared with the rest of the months in 2008) are just in line with the average anomaly of the last 6 years. Which is hardly an indication of an incoming warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Nance</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22313</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Nance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Busted!!!!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/16/do1610.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busted!!!!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/16/do1610.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>opinion/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>main.jhtml?xml=/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>opinion/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>11/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>16/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>do1610.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: E. Patrick Mosman</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22293</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Patrick Mosman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Hansen and his NASA clones exposed again as global warming hoaxers.

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  Rest of disinformation deleted.  Seriously, deniers, peddle your anti-scientific nonsense someplace else.  Oh, and yes, NASA did land men on the moon and return them.  Really!&lt;/em&gt;] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Hansen and his NASA clones exposed again as global warming hoaxers.</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  Rest of disinformation deleted.  Seriously, deniers, peddle your anti-scientific nonsense someplace else.  Oh, and yes, NASA did land men on the moon and return them.  Really!</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Lamont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lamont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Great link. As I read it, NOAA saying that 2009 looks to be ENSO-neutral with perhaps a mild La Nina over the winter.&quot;

That&#039;s odd, I could have sworn I read earlier this week that they had switched to calling for mild la nina early 2009.  I wonder if they updated the slides.

I&#039;ve been watching that report on a weekly basis, though, and the trend of the projections has been towards increasing the chances of a la nina again early next year....

...

Oh, check the third-to-last page where they state &quot;The CFS ensemble mean (heavy blue line) indicates La Nina conditions through mid-2009&quot;.  So maybe its just the computer ensemble that is calling it, but the forecasters are hedging their bets more.

Nothing seems to be predicting an El Nino, though, so we can probably expect colder ENSO-neutral to La Nina conditions next year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Great link. As I read it, NOAA saying that 2009 looks to be ENSO-neutral with perhaps a mild La Nina over the winter.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s odd, I could have sworn I read earlier this week that they had switched to calling for mild la nina early 2009.  I wonder if they updated the slides.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching that report on a weekly basis, though, and the trend of the projections has been towards increasing the chances of a la nina again early next year&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, check the third-to-last page where they state &#8220;The CFS ensemble mean (heavy blue line) indicates La Nina conditions through mid-2009&#8243;.  So maybe its just the computer ensemble that is calling it, but the forecasters are hedging their bets more.</p>
<p>Nothing seems to be predicting an El Nino, though, so we can probably expect colder ENSO-neutral to La Nina conditions next year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lamont</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/11/13/global-warming-temperatures-nasa-sixth-warmest-october-on-record/#comment-22216</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was just an alarmist, then I&#039;d also be *incorrect*, and if we got another strong el nino year there would be nothing to fear.  If I was wrong then even in a strong el nino year, temperatures would still be declining since 1998.  Nothing to worry about if I&#039;m wrong.  Its only if AGW theories are actually correct that a strong El Nino year would lead to an absolute record breaking year in global air temperature in which case, yes, you should be alarmed.  So lets bring on a strong El Nino and settle this bet.  And you should want this, too, since if we get a strong El Nino *without* any corresponding increase in global temperature that would probably do some damage to Obama&#039;s ability to push his agenda.  We both probably know that isn&#039;t going to happen though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was just an alarmist, then I&#8217;d also be *incorrect*, and if we got another strong el nino year there would be nothing to fear.  If I was wrong then even in a strong el nino year, temperatures would still be declining since 1998.  Nothing to worry about if I&#8217;m wrong.  Its only if AGW theories are actually correct that a strong El Nino year would lead to an absolute record breaking year in global air temperature in which case, yes, you should be alarmed.  So lets bring on a strong El Nino and settle this bet.  And you should want this, too, since if we get a strong El Nino *without* any corresponding increase in global temperature that would probably do some damage to Obama&#8217;s ability to push his agenda.  We both probably know that isn&#8217;t going to happen though.</p>
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