Comments on: Draft auto bailout bill plus Ford and GM can meet the CA standard http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:24:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Rick http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24467 Rick Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:31:26 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24467 The only reason why I saw any benefit to the bailout was if Congress could control how Detroit behaves in manners that directly relate to the environment and producing energy efficient cars in a sustainable way. If the plan does not pass, I think the government will loose out on extra leverage that they might otherwise have. There are interesting perspectives out there about using the bailout money to build fueling stations for natural gas or electricity or to use the money to buy Tesla. We need to think outside the box. The only reason why I saw any benefit to the bailout was if Congress could control how Detroit behaves in manners that directly relate to the environment and producing energy efficient cars in a sustainable way. If the plan does not pass, I think the government will loose out on extra leverage that they might otherwise have.

There are interesting perspectives out there about using the bailout money to build fueling stations for natural gas or electricity or to use the money to buy Tesla. We need to think outside the box.

]]> By: Mark Shapiro http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24157 Mark Shapiro Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:18:27 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24157 All efficiency improvements are welcome, but can we aim even higher? Amory Lovins at www.RMI.org has been preaching efficiency and renewables for 30 years, land has catalogued the ways to end oil. (Yes, he also preached hydrogen fuel cells, but he has backed away from that. Anybody can make a mistake.) He spells out the whole plan at the website for his book: www.oilendgame.com . The whole thing is available for free, and worth a look. His main goal now is to make cars lighter with carbon fiber. Let's start with buses and taxis, where you get the most bang for your buck (or in the case of bailouts, our tax bucks). All efficiency improvements are welcome, but can we aim even higher? Amory Lovins at http://www.RMI.org has been preaching efficiency and renewables for 30 years, land has catalogued the ways to end oil. (Yes, he also preached hydrogen fuel cells, but he has backed away from that. Anybody can make a mistake.)

He spells out the whole plan at the website for his book: http://www.oilendgame.com . The whole thing is available for free, and worth a look.

His main goal now is to make cars lighter with carbon fiber. Let’s start with buses and taxis, where you get the most bang for your buck (or in the case of bailouts, our tax bucks).

]]> By: Andy Bauer http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24156 Andy Bauer Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:13:59 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24156 “Any bailout must require the companies to end their opposition to California’s standards and meet higher federal fuel economy and emission standards..." Anyone know if Congress required the Big 3 to drop their lawsuits against CA and other states? “Any bailout must require the companies to end their opposition to California’s standards and meet higher federal fuel economy and emission standards…”

Anyone know if Congress required the Big 3 to drop their lawsuits against CA and other states?

]]> By: llewelly http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24149 llewelly Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:34:29 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/draft-auto-bailout-bill-plus-ford-and-gm-can-meet-the-ca-standard/#comment-24149 well this is good news. Maybe there's a future for GM and Ford after all. Maybe. well this is good news. Maybe there’s a future for GM and Ford after all. Maybe.

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