Comments on: GM’s Lutz: Wagoner is one of “the innocents,” just “the mayor of a city hit by an earthquake” http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:04:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: t_p_hamilton http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24213 t_p_hamilton Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:32:51 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24213 Shouldn't Bob Lutz name been Bob Lulz? :) Shouldn’t Bob Lutz name been Bob Lulz? :)

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24176 paulm Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:26:46 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24176 This is it - once the lawyers get in on it everyone will come round to the fact. I guess this could be classified as a mini Pearl Harbor type event. <blockquote> Science paves way for climate lawsuits http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/dec/09/oil-business-climate-change-flooding People affected by worsening storms, heatwaves and floods could soon be able to sue the oil and power companies they blame for global warming, a leading climate expert has said. .... "We can work out whether climate change has loaded the dice and made extreme weather more likely. And once the risk is doubled, then lawyers get interested," he said. This is it – once the lawyers get in on it everyone will come round to the fact.

I guess this could be classified as a mini Pearl Harbor type event.

Science paves way for climate lawsuits
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ environment/ 2008/ dec/ 09/ oil-business-climate-change-flooding

People affected by worsening storms, heatwaves and floods could soon be able to sue the oil and power companies they blame for global warming, a leading climate expert has said.
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“We can work out whether climate change has loaded the dice and made extreme weather more likely. And once the risk is doubled, then lawyers get interested,” he said.

]]> By: Rick http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24175 Rick Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:32:14 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24175 shocking to me that all these car companies are in such bad shape. We've been living in times of cheap energy and strong economies - up until this year anyway. They should be able to weather the bad times a little better than this. I mean the streets are full of new cars and yet these companies are broke. It's not as if we're in Cuba where all the cars are 40 years old. I'm sure there has never been a time when so many average people have been driving new or almost new cars. These companies are just so big and bloated. They need to get lean and mean and quit living in the past. Dumping the head guys is really not enough. Maybe they have to break these companies into little pieces that can live or die on their own merits. shocking to me that all these car companies are in such bad shape. We’ve been living in times of cheap energy and strong economies – up until this year anyway. They should be able to weather the bad times a little better than this. I mean the streets are full of new cars and yet these companies are broke. It’s not as if we’re in Cuba where all the cars are 40 years old. I’m sure there has never been a time when so many average people have been driving new or almost new cars.

These companies are just so big and bloated. They need to get lean and mean and quit living in the past. Dumping the head guys is really not enough. Maybe they have to break these companies into little pieces that can live or die on their own merits.

]]> By: llewelly http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24169 llewelly Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:35:47 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24169 Uh, we can make highly efficient vehicles with a lot more than 20 kW. Modern hybrid tech can easily deliver a 75 kW 4-door that gets 50mpg Uh, we can make highly efficient vehicles with a lot more than 20 kW.
Modern hybrid tech can easily deliver a 75 kW 4-door that gets 50mpg

]]> By: jorleh http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24167 jorleh Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:36:27 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/08/gms-lutz-wagoner-is-one-of-the-innocents-just-the-mayor-of-a-city-hit-by-an-earthquake/#comment-24167 Now it is time to go back seventy years and make cars like volkswagen: 20 kW and 50 km per hour. That´s enough for our actions forwads. Now it is time to go back seventy years and make cars like volkswagen: 20 kW and 50 km per hour. That´s enough for our actions forwads.

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