Comments on: The best eco-movie of the year — and the worst http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:23:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bob Wallace http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25968 Bob Wallace Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:41:45 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25968 "Think of removing CO2 from the air as another form of trash disposal." OK, now think about the scale of applying that analogy to our atmospheric problem. Think about the number of "garbage trucks" we're going to need. And the size of the landfills. Now consider the fact that we don't even know how to build those garbage trucks. “Think of removing CO2 from the air as another form of trash disposal.”

OK, now think about the scale of applying that analogy to our atmospheric problem. Think about the number of “garbage trucks” we’re going to need. And the size of the landfills.

Now consider the fact that we don’t even know how to build those garbage trucks.

]]> By: Charles http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25893 Charles Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:31:56 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25893 Yes, Wall-e was at the top of my list. I own a small production company and we just wrapped our eco-friendly TV pilot for preschoolers. I just can't imagine working on projects that don't have an eco-awareness built into them at this point. The quicker that young people start on a green path, the better off we will be. I hope your list is much longer next year! PS- the Ad Council idea is a great one. Yes, Wall-e was at the top of my list. I own a small production company and we just wrapped our eco-friendly TV pilot for preschoolers. I just can’t imagine working on projects that don’t have an eco-awareness built into them at this point. The quicker that young people start on a green path, the better off we will be.

I hope your list is much longer next year!

PS- the Ad Council idea is a great one.

]]> By: walle http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25888 walle Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:46:58 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25888 Wall-E inspired me and my family. I would like to see the green community partner with Pixar to make Wall-E a standing earth day symbol - perhaps an Ad Council short. Regards, walle Wall-E inspired me and my family. I would like to see the green community partner with Pixar to make Wall-E a standing earth day symbol – perhaps an Ad Council short.

Regards,

walle

]]> By: Lars http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25832 Lars Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:54:21 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25832 You only mention two films?! You only mention two films?!

]]> By: Phil Gross http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25819 Phil Gross Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:17:16 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25819 Wall-E is one of my favorite movies, and I thoroughly agree with most of your opinions, but I was a bit thrown by your final point, that the carbon footprint of animated films are "as low as they come". For traditional animation, I would definitely agree, but a modern, top-quality CG film means a giant data center crunching rendering tasks 24/365 for a year or two. I would be interested in knowing what the actual kwh cost of a film like Wall-E is, and whether it's going down (due to lower-power cpus/gpus and better datacenter efficiencies) or up (due to much more complex graphics in each frame). Wall-E is one of my favorite movies, and I thoroughly agree with most of your opinions, but I was a bit thrown by your final point, that the carbon footprint of animated films are “as low as they come”. For traditional animation, I would definitely agree, but a modern, top-quality CG film means a giant data center crunching rendering tasks 24/365 for a year or two.

I would be interested in knowing what the actual kwh cost of a film like Wall-E is, and whether it’s going down (due to lower-power cpus/gpus and better datacenter efficiencies) or up (due to much more complex graphics in each frame).

]]> By: Rick C http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25794 Rick C Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:16:24 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25794 I loved WALL-E because it had an endearing story to it, love, which is universal but it touched people with regard the environment the way the 1972 film "Silent Running" did with the loss of natural habitat. Essentially nautural habitats were launced into space housed in geodesic spheres with the hope that they would one day be tranplanted on earth. In fact the robot WALL-E closely resembles the robots, Huey, Duey and Luey in the movie. After WALL-E the next dystopian film on my A-list is "Soylent Green". I have it in my DVD collection and man it still depresses the hell out of me. I loved WALL-E because it had an endearing story to it, love, which is universal but it touched people with regard the environment the way the 1972 film “Silent Running” did with the loss of natural habitat. Essentially nautural habitats were launced into space housed in geodesic spheres with the hope that they would one day be tranplanted on earth. In fact the robot WALL-E closely resembles the robots, Huey, Duey and Luey in the movie.

After WALL-E the next dystopian film on my A-list is “Soylent Green”. I have it in my DVD collection and man it still depresses the hell out of me.

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25790 David B. Benson Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:47:53 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25790 Think of removing CO2 from the air as another form of trash disposal. Think of removing CO2 from the air as another form of trash disposal.

]]> By: Zane Selvans http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25784 Zane Selvans Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:10:29 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25784 I think WALL-E is probably more a product of Pixar (and Steve Jobs' culture) than Disney. It'll be interesting to see if Pixar is able to maintain the critical tone of its movies under Disney. I think WALL-E is probably more a product of Pixar (and Steve Jobs’ culture) than Disney. It’ll be interesting to see if Pixar is able to maintain the critical tone of its movies under Disney.

]]> By: Drew http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25783 Drew Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:48:32 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25783 Loved WALL-E too. Of course, the big story on Earth right now is a growing human society running into ecological limits of many types (oil, water, climate, toxics, etc). I found it interesting that the Disney writer chose a relatively a-political "limit" -- trash disposal. Seemed to work as an accessible way to explore sustainability. Loved WALL-E too.

Of course, the big story on Earth right now is a growing human society running into ecological limits of many types (oil, water, climate, toxics, etc). I found it interesting that the Disney writer chose a relatively a-political “limit” — trash disposal. Seemed to work as an accessible way to explore sustainability.

]]> By: Larry Coleman http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25782 Larry Coleman Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:28:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/28/the-best-worst-environmental-movie-wall-e-quantum-of-solace/#comment-25782 The themes were dear to my heart, as they were to Joe and many others, but I did not end up so enthusiastic about the movie. The first part, on Earth, was creative and deserves all the accolades it has received. The space part was less successful. The main idea of consumerism was quickly and devastatingly made but that was about it (other than the sweet, forgettable romance). The sustained freshness of the first part was replaced by action-for-action's sake, clearly to appeal to teens, which it surely did. I gave it three out of five stars at Netflix. I would be happy for others to tell me why I am wrong and an old grouch. The themes were dear to my heart, as they were to Joe and many others, but I did not end up so enthusiastic about the movie. The first part, on Earth, was creative and deserves all the accolades it has received. The space part was less successful. The main idea of consumerism was quickly and devastatingly made but that was about it (other than the sweet, forgettable romance). The sustained freshness of the first part was replaced by action-for-action’s sake, clearly to appeal to teens, which it surely did. I gave it three out of five stars at Netflix. I would be happy for others to tell me why I am wrong and an old grouch.

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