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	<title>Comments on: Climate change is accelerating warns top German scientist</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Wallace</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/30/climate-change-is-accelerating-warns-top-german-scientist/#comment-25970</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a TV at home, but I recently spent a few nights in motels which had TVs. 

I&#039;d say, based on my small sampling, that global climate change is a given in the general population.

Several months back a Gallup poll found only 10% of the population to be in active denial.  I&#039;d bet that number to be much smaller now.  Even starting to approach the percentage of the population that is clinically mentally &quot;not attached to reality&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a TV at home, but I recently spent a few nights in motels which had TVs. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, based on my small sampling, that global climate change is a given in the general population.</p>
<p>Several months back a Gallup poll found only 10% of the population to be in active denial.  I&#8217;d bet that number to be much smaller now.  Even starting to approach the percentage of the population that is clinically mentally &#8220;not attached to reality&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sinclair</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/30/climate-change-is-accelerating-warns-top-german-scientist/#comment-25967</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the telegraph piece. Good lord what a mish mosh of half digested garbage.
The writer was confused on so many issues one does not know where to begin.

In other words, a typical disagreer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the telegraph piece. Good lord what a mish mosh of half digested garbage.<br />
The writer was confused on so many issues one does not know where to begin.</p>
<p>In other words, a typical disagreer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wright</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/30/climate-change-is-accelerating-warns-top-german-scientist/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a look at some of the denier material on-line. They have convinced themselves of a scenario (including a 30 year cooling trend) best summarized in articles by retired geology prof. Don Easterbrook:
* The GISS temp charts are misleading. The world has cooled since &#039;98.
* They see some trend indicating reduced solar activity, and point out the long quiet period between solar cycles 23 and 24.
* The Pacific Decadal Oscillation has entered a cool period, and this actually lines up with the &quot;cool&quot; temps in the Pacific and parts of the US in 2008. 
* Water vapor as a GHG feedback to the above vastly outweighs any change in CO2.
* The arctic temp trend will soon reverse.

It looks like Easterbrook is using his &quot;experience&quot; in predicting lower solar activity, and apparently simply copied the last cool PDO segement  on the chart, pasted it on the end, and called it his prediction with no regard as to the overlay effect of increased CO2. I recently followed a GW thread on CommonDreams, and there was no convincing a well versed skeptic.

Senator Imhofe compounds this with publishing these opinions as part of his commitee reports, making them &quot;accepted&quot; expert opinions.

So we have dueling sets of opinions, and don&#039;t be surprised if Imhofes&#039; Republicans and the pundits fight tooth and nail until the GW signal is more apparent. If Hansen&#039;s models are corrrct, it won&#039;t take long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a look at some of the denier material on-line. They have convinced themselves of a scenario (including a 30 year cooling trend) best summarized in articles by retired geology prof. Don Easterbrook:<br />
* The GISS temp charts are misleading. The world has cooled since &#8216;98.<br />
* They see some trend indicating reduced solar activity, and point out the long quiet period between solar cycles 23 and 24.<br />
* The Pacific Decadal Oscillation has entered a cool period, and this actually lines up with the &#8220;cool&#8221; temps in the Pacific and parts of the US in 2008.<br />
* Water vapor as a GHG feedback to the above vastly outweighs any change in CO2.<br />
* The arctic temp trend will soon reverse.</p>
<p>It looks like Easterbrook is using his &#8220;experience&#8221; in predicting lower solar activity, and apparently simply copied the last cool PDO segement  on the chart, pasted it on the end, and called it his prediction with no regard as to the overlay effect of increased CO2. I recently followed a GW thread on CommonDreams, and there was no convincing a well versed skeptic.</p>
<p>Senator Imhofe compounds this with publishing these opinions as part of his commitee reports, making them &#8220;accepted&#8221; expert opinions.</p>
<p>So we have dueling sets of opinions, and don&#8217;t be surprised if Imhofes&#8217; Republicans and the pundits fight tooth and nail until the GW signal is more apparent. If Hansen&#8217;s models are corrrct, it won&#8217;t take long.</p>
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		<title>By: hapa</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/30/climate-change-is-accelerating-warns-top-german-scientist/#comment-25959</link>
		<dc:creator>hapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everything here is a virus. virus versus virus. virus-on-virus action. just because we stepped outside our bounds faster than we could teach ourselves the system, or the ice age slanted things way toward our skill set, doesn&#039;t make our DNA somehow an abomination.

even to call us a virus or cancer, that criticism is informed by our own spin on what&#039;s good and bad in biophysical affairs. we hate disease outbreaks or preventable illness because they cause us pain and they damage our social networks and hierarchies but we welcome viral cures for critters we think are pests. we even inject ourselves with viruses to cure other viruses.

actually i think that ice age thing is important. greatness was thrust upon us. thousands of years later, from a start somewhere near extinction, we&#039;re stripping ourselves of the opportunity and crown because we are uncontrollably ferocious and not smart enough to see that chasing heaven leaves earth barren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everything here is a virus. virus versus virus. virus-on-virus action. just because we stepped outside our bounds faster than we could teach ourselves the system, or the ice age slanted things way toward our skill set, doesn&#8217;t make our DNA somehow an abomination.</p>
<p>even to call us a virus or cancer, that criticism is informed by our own spin on what&#8217;s good and bad in biophysical affairs. we hate disease outbreaks or preventable illness because they cause us pain and they damage our social networks and hierarchies but we welcome viral cures for critters we think are pests. we even inject ourselves with viruses to cure other viruses.</p>
<p>actually i think that ice age thing is important. greatness was thrust upon us. thousands of years later, from a start somewhere near extinction, we&#8217;re stripping ourselves of the opportunity and crown because we are uncontrollably ferocious and not smart enough to see that chasing heaven leaves earth barren.</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/30/climate-change-is-accelerating-warns-top-german-scientist/#comment-25936</link>
		<dc:creator>paulm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick ..
.&quot;....The only hope for the climate is that it self regulates and that we’re just too small to affect it much.&quot;

I have to agree with you. We are, however, a big part of Gaia and have to do our part.  

The world has a fever and things are  going to get worse for us. A ridding/reducing of the &#039;virus&#039; .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick ..<br />
.&#8221;&#8230;.The only hope for the climate is that it self regulates and that we’re just too small to affect it much.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to agree with you. We are, however, a big part of Gaia and have to do our part.  </p>
<p>The world has a fever and things are  going to get worse for us. A ridding/reducing of the &#8216;virus&#8217; .</p>
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		<title>By: jorleh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90 % of people don´t understand the function of CO2 in the atmosphere.

These 90 % vote their leaders only to get better next four years for themselves.

The first thing must be to educate people to understand the function of CO2 in the atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90 % of people don´t understand the function of CO2 in the atmosphere.</p>
<p>These 90 % vote their leaders only to get better next four years for themselves.</p>
<p>The first thing must be to educate people to understand the function of CO2 in the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lewis</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2008/12/30/climate-change-is-accelerating-warns-top-german-scientist/#comment-25925</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Hansen&#039;s open letter

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/20080804_TripReport.pdf

written after his meeting with government officials in Germany and the UK, including this German government science advisor John Schellnhuber the post above is about, concludes that all these types in Germany and the UK are deluding themselves as they continue on with their massive non carbon capturing coal fired electrical generating plant building program.  Hansen refers to a &quot;sobering self-deception....&quot; he saw in a letter from an official in the UK, and he said the delusion was  &quot;almost identical to that of German Minister Gabriel&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Hansen&#8217;s open letter</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/20080804_TripReport.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbia.edu/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>~jeh1/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>mailings/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>20080804_TripReport.pdf</a></p>
<p>written after his meeting with government officials in Germany and the UK, including this German government science advisor John Schellnhuber the post above is about, concludes that all these types in Germany and the UK are deluding themselves as they continue on with their massive non carbon capturing coal fired electrical generating plant building program.  Hansen refers to a &#8220;sobering self-deception&#8230;.&#8221; he saw in a letter from an official in the UK, and he said the delusion was  &#8220;almost identical to that of German Minister Gabriel&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick  --- As it happens, I&#039;ve just finished the (most preliminary) costs estimates on an efficient way to remove excess, unwanted carbon dioxide.  This looks to me that it will

pay for itself

if the cost of growing and collecting biomass at a digester is below about $65 per tonne!

Even better, if the price of natural gas goes back up, the whole operation will actually make money.  (My study size turns ought to involve tens of billions of dollars.) That thought of potential profit ought to be incentive enough to get this started.

I&#039;m about ready to start re-writing the first draft of the white paper on this variation of enhanced mineral weathering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick  &#8212; As it happens, I&#8217;ve just finished the (most preliminary) costs estimates on an efficient way to remove excess, unwanted carbon dioxide.  This looks to me that it will</p>
<p>pay for itself</p>
<p>if the cost of growing and collecting biomass at a digester is below about $65 per tonne!</p>
<p>Even better, if the price of natural gas goes back up, the whole operation will actually make money.  (My study size turns ought to involve tens of billions of dollars.) That thought of potential profit ought to be incentive enough to get this started.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m about ready to start re-writing the first draft of the white paper on this variation of enhanced mineral weathering.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick: I feel like you at times and as an activist, there are days I want to quit from frustration.  There is hope, though. After January 20th, there will be a new way of thinking in the White House. I am increasingly optimistic.  I have children.  I have to be hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick: I feel like you at times and as an activist, there are days I want to quit from frustration.  There is hope, though. After January 20th, there will be a new way of thinking in the White House. I am increasingly optimistic.  I have children.  I have to be hopeful.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on fixing the planet: it all just seems so beyond humanity to me.

If we&#039;re crossing tipping points, while we burn rain forests and coal, then realistically there is no turning back. Worldwide human activity is impossible to steer. Environmentalists will not be given the controls. They will never get more than a few useless bones thrown to them by a political system that is fragmented and totally self indulgent.

The only hope for the climate is that it self regulates and that we&#039;re just too small to affect it much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on fixing the planet: it all just seems so beyond humanity to me.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re crossing tipping points, while we burn rain forests and coal, then realistically there is no turning back. Worldwide human activity is impossible to steer. Environmentalists will not be given the controls. They will never get more than a few useless bones thrown to them by a political system that is fragmented and totally self indulgent.</p>
<p>The only hope for the climate is that it self regulates and that we&#8217;re just too small to affect it much.</p>
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