Comments on: Stimulus deal reached. Here’s what’s green in it. http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:23:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Steve M http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-30051 Steve M Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:25:23 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-30051 This Bill "Repeals Penalty for Subsidized Renewable Energy Financing", does this mean that in New York State we would get the 30% tax credit taken off the solar system, before the NYSERDA Rebate is applied. $9/watt X 4kW = 36,000. $10,800 off for 30% Fed tax credit? then the State grant of $12,000 and then $5,000 off for NY State tax credit. so $8,200 total or would it still be a $7,200 Fed tax credit and $11,800 total? We were unclear with its wording. Also are tax exempt customers able to take advantage of the Renewable Energy Grant? This Bill “Repeals Penalty for Subsidized Renewable Energy Financing”, does this mean that in New York State we would get the 30% tax credit taken off the solar system, before the NYSERDA Rebate is applied. $9/watt X 4kW = 36,000. $10,800 off for 30% Fed tax credit? then the State grant of $12,000 and then $5,000 off for NY State tax credit. so $8,200 total or would it still be a $7,200 Fed tax credit and $11,800 total? We were unclear with its wording. Also are tax exempt customers able to take advantage of the Renewable Energy Grant?

]]> By: vfx http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29767 vfx Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:23:55 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29767 CalCars has vehicle info specifics: http://www.calcars.org/calcars-news/1044.html CalCars has vehicle info specifics:
http://www.calcars.org/calcars-news/1044.html

]]> By: Jim Bullis, Miastrada Co. http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29708 Jim Bullis, Miastrada Co. Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:00:08 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29708 So how do we get funding from ARPA E for (1) a low power but efficient engine capable of operating as an range extending engine in an efficient plug-in; it would use an Atkinson cycle approach, and/or (2) a low power diesel engine with a catalytic converter capable of eliminating NOx (based on proclaimed Argonne technology) so that high efficiency could be achieved, and (3) an articulated high efficiency vehicle that takes advantage of airship technology to almost eliminate aerodynamic drag, and (4) household level cogeneration technologies based on the efficient vehicle (3) with engines (1) or (2), such technologies including heat using methods involving heat coupling from vehicle to household, space heating systems, water heating, clothes drying, and absorption cooling. Hey, number (3) has six wheels in the present form I envision, so how does that fit into the subsidy game? How might we actually make a government program work, and not just perpetuate and enhance research by the administrators, as was the case with SBIR, whether it was a DARPA or other DOD sponsored topic? Hope springs eternal in the hearts of fools? (I forget who said that.) So how do we get funding from ARPA E for

(1) a low power but efficient engine capable of operating as an range extending engine in an efficient plug-in; it would use an Atkinson cycle approach, and/or

(2) a low power diesel engine with a catalytic converter capable of eliminating NOx (based on proclaimed Argonne technology) so that high efficiency could be achieved, and

(3) an articulated high efficiency vehicle that takes advantage of airship technology to almost eliminate aerodynamic drag, and

(4) household level cogeneration technologies based on the efficient vehicle (3) with engines (1) or (2), such technologies including heat using methods involving heat coupling from vehicle to household, space heating systems, water heating, clothes drying, and absorption cooling.

Hey, number (3) has six wheels in the present form I envision, so how does that fit into the subsidy game?

How might we actually make a government program work, and not just perpetuate and enhance research by the administrators, as was the case with SBIR, whether it was a DARPA or other DOD sponsored topic?

Hope springs eternal in the hearts of fools? (I forget who said that.)

]]> By: Richard Levangie http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29691 Richard Levangie Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:16:12 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29691 A new report by Lord Stern and his cronies suggests that the international community thinks very highly of these investments. They're spending spending the money effectively, where it will do the most good in the shortest amount of time. ::::: Though I bemoan the lack of support for rail... ::::: A new report by Lord Stern and his cronies suggests that the international community thinks very highly of these investments. They’re spending spending the money effectively, where it will do the most good in the shortest amount of time.

::::: Though I bemoan the lack of support for rail… :::::

]]> By: Sasparilla http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29687 Sasparilla Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:20:39 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29687 Is Utility Decoupling still in there? (I don't know if it got dropped by the Senate) Anyone know? This can't get moving fast enough. Nice to see they gave NASA some additional money for climate change research and in general. [<em>JR: I believe it is.</em>] Is Utility Decoupling still in there? (I don’t know if it got dropped by the Senate) Anyone know?

This can’t get moving fast enough. Nice to see they gave NASA some additional money for climate change research and in general.

[JR: I believe it is.]

]]> By: Rick C http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29680 Rick C Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:01:00 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29680 MikeB, Last I heard 3 wheeled vehicles like the Myers Motors NMG and the 2 wheeled, and very hot looking, Vectrix motorcycle would be included in the bill. There are credits for up to 10% of ev conversions up to $40,000.00. So you'd get $4,000.00 as a credit provided it was a 'qualified' conversion. There's a sub-section somewhere in the bil on what they mean by qualified. This is in there to prevent the ev snake oil charlatans from squandering for those of us who are seriously into EV's and plug-in hybrids. MikeB,

Last I heard 3 wheeled vehicles like the Myers Motors NMG and the 2 wheeled, and very hot looking, Vectrix motorcycle would be included in the bill. There are credits for up to 10% of ev conversions up to $40,000.00. So you’d get $4,000.00 as a credit provided it was a ‘qualified’ conversion. There’s a sub-section somewhere in the bil on what they mean by qualified. This is in there to prevent the ev snake oil charlatans from squandering for those of us who are seriously into EV’s and plug-in hybrids.

]]> By: Brian M http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29677 Brian M Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:15:32 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29677 Joe, It appears that the conference decided to leave the cap on residential solar thermal, geothermal, and wind. The senate version had the following: "The proposal removes the $2000 cap on the 30 percent credit for solar thermal and geothermal property, as well as the $4000 cap on small wind property." Can you confirm that this provision was removed? Brian Joe,

It appears that the conference decided to leave the cap on residential solar thermal, geothermal, and wind.

The senate version had the following:

“The proposal removes the $2000 cap on the 30 percent credit for solar thermal and geothermal property, as well as the $4000 cap on small wind property.”

Can you confirm that this provision was removed?

Brian

]]> By: Jim Mc http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29658 Jim Mc Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:02:33 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29658 Joe, Did the 30% tax credit for solar move to a 30% Grant from the DOE as was one proposal? And if so, does it apply for non-profit and govt. entities? Joe,
Did the 30% tax credit for solar move to a 30% Grant from the DOE as was one proposal? And if so, does it apply for non-profit and govt. entities?

]]> By: MikeB http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29653 MikeB Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:42:22 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/12/stimulus-deal-reached-heres-whats-green-it-it/#comment-29653 Joe, do you know if the PHEV vehicle purchase tax credit was extended to include motorcycles & trikes? Some of the neatest new ultra-high efficient (100mpg+) vehicles over the next couple of years are being designed with 3 wheels, mostly to reduce the testing overhead for cars. I was disappointed to find that last year's PHEV credit didn't apply to these vehicles. Joe, do you know if the PHEV vehicle purchase tax credit was extended to include motorcycles & trikes? Some of the neatest new ultra-high efficient (100mpg+) vehicles over the next couple of years are being designed with 3 wheels, mostly to reduce the testing overhead for cars. I was disappointed to find that last year’s PHEV credit didn’t apply to these vehicles.

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