Comments on: Another big win for renewables in the stimulus bill http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:07:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: KeepNVStrong http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29805 KeepNVStrong Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:26:04 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29805 Here's your guy: http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2008/d2008-0245.html Here’s your guy: http://www.wipo.int/ amc/ en/ domains/ decisions/ html/ 2008/ d2008-0245.html

]]> By: Rick C http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29772 Rick C Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:49:30 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29772 Joe, This is off-topic but, in light of the renewal of tax incentives to build wind turbine farms I thought I would ask about this anti wind turbine group. While trying to show a friend some pics of the wind turbines out in Sweetwater Texas I accidentally came across this website called 'Wind-Watch.org. They present themselves as a grass roots environmental group apposed to sighing and constructing wind farms. They're disparaging the use of wind turbines to combat climate change They argue that they are noisy, depopulate migrating birds, reduce bat populations, use far more land per watt to generate energy than conventional sources (unless you factor in mountain top removal and the good things the coal companies are doing in the Powder River Basin in Wyoming) and so on. The people who founded the organization are listed in the about section and are from the New England states of Vermont and Massachusetts. I tried whois.net and it referred me to pir.org. When I rang it through there this is what I got: Domain ID: D126145137-LROR Domain Name: WIND-WATCH.ORG Created On: 20-Jul-2006 14: 08: 33 UTC Last Updated On: 12-Feb-2009 17: 55: 46 UTC Expiration Date: 20-Jul-2012 14: 08: 33 UTC Sponsoring Registrar: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR) Status: CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED Status: CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED Status: CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status: CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Registrant ID: GODA-021881143 Registrant Name: Registration Private Registrant Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc. Registrant Street1: DomainsByProxy.com Registrant Street2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Registrant Street3: Registrant City: Scottsdale Registrant State/Province: Arizona Registrant Postal Code: 85260 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599 Note the registrant is listed as private and there is no reference to the states this board of directors is from but instead indicates registration from Scottsdale Arizona. Now that means nothing in and of itself because web hosting sites can be located anywhere but their information is highly misleading and some of the pics show wind turbines on fire in an attempt to use scare tactics. It's as if those concerns eclipse the coal ash spills in Tennessee, mountaintop removal, mercury, lead and a host of other deadly emissions. Are they an Astroturf organization? Joe,

This is off-topic but, in light of the renewal of tax incentives to build wind turbine farms I thought I would ask about this anti wind turbine group. While trying to show a friend some pics of the wind turbines out in Sweetwater Texas I accidentally came across this website called ‘Wind-Watch.org. They present themselves as a grass roots environmental group apposed to sighing and constructing wind farms. They’re disparaging the use of wind turbines to combat climate change They argue that they are noisy, depopulate migrating birds, reduce bat populations, use far more land per watt to generate energy than conventional sources (unless you factor in mountain top removal and the good things the coal companies are doing in the Powder River Basin in Wyoming) and so on. The people who founded the organization are listed in the about section and are from the New England states of Vermont and Massachusetts. I tried whois.net and it referred me to pir.org. When I rang it through there this is what I got:

Domain ID: D126145137-LROR
Domain Name: WIND-WATCH.ORG
Created On: 20-Jul-2006 14: 08: 33 UTC
Last Updated On: 12-Feb-2009 17: 55: 46 UTC
Expiration Date: 20-Jul-2012 14: 08: 33 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status: CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status: CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status: CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status: CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID: GODA-021881143
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599

Note the registrant is listed as private and there is no reference to the states this board of directors is from but instead indicates registration from Scottsdale Arizona. Now that means nothing in and of itself because web hosting sites can be located anywhere but their information is highly misleading and some of the pics show wind turbines on fire in an attempt to use scare tactics. It’s as if those concerns eclipse the coal ash spills in Tennessee, mountaintop removal, mercury, lead and a host of other deadly emissions. Are they an Astroturf organization?

]]> By: Sasparilla http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29749 Sasparilla Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:47:27 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29749 Hey Joe, is Utility Decoupling still in the final package? [<em>JR: Yes, to the displeasure of many, as it turns out.</em>] Hey Joe, is Utility Decoupling still in the final package?

[JR: Yes, to the displeasure of many, as it turns out.]

]]> By: Bob Wright http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29744 Bob Wright Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:10:02 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/13/another-big-win-for-renewables-in-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-29744 Another reason to leave nuclear out of the stimulus package is that it seems to be doing just fine already. Florida, Georgia and South Carolina each have approved GenIII reactors, leaving only NRC reviews to be done. In round numbers that is about 7,000 MW capacity due on line around 2016 at a cost of...only God knows... maybe $40-50b. The best news is the Florida utility is actually going to RETIRE two coal fired plants when they are on-line. The plants will be identical to those already under construction in China, and costs may fall as suppliers build hundreds of standardized components, not one-of-a-kinds. With this glowing (in the dark) report card, the stimulus money will be much better used for the smaller but more numerous renewables and conservation projects. Another reason to leave nuclear out of the stimulus package is that it seems to be doing just fine already. Florida, Georgia and South Carolina each have approved GenIII reactors, leaving only NRC reviews to be done.

In round numbers that is about 7,000 MW capacity due on line around 2016 at a cost of…only God knows… maybe $40-50b. The best news is the Florida utility is actually going to RETIRE two coal fired plants when they are on-line.

The plants will be identical to those already under construction in China, and costs may fall as suppliers build hundreds of standardized components, not one-of-a-kinds.

With this glowing (in the dark) report card, the stimulus money will be much better used for the smaller but more numerous renewables and conservation projects.

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