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		<title>By: Screwbill</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/15/george-will-global-cooling-warming-debunked/#comment-31685</link>
		<dc:creator>Screwbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is overwhelming evidence that you &quot;global warming&quot; extremists are wrong. You are following a politician on a crusade. Oh look, some more kool-aid. yum. Yea thats it. You like that don&#039;t you. Yea. Drink the Kool-Aid. Gooood.

[&lt;em&gt;JR:    My comments&#039; moderation policy is simple.  Everybody can post without moderation until they start posting multiple ad hominem attacks, twisting my or others&#039; words to attack strawmen, or, most importantly, repeating long-debunked disinformation from denier talking points.  So I&#039;m putting you on moderation on the basis of your first three comments, one of which I have already excised due to its flaming irrelevance.

My apologies to all my readers for needing a moderation policy at all, but as I&#039;m sure most of you know if you frequent the blogosphere, websites without a moderation policy, quickly get taken over by deniers.

Also, as I have explained previously, if I allow people to post long-debunked misinformation, but then don&#039;t debunk it for the umpteenth time, new visitors would be left with the impression that it is a credible argument.  But if I do debunk it, then I end up wasting valuable time, so the deniers succeed anyway.&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is overwhelming evidence that you &#8220;global warming&#8221; extremists are wrong. You are following a politician on a crusade. Oh look, some more kool-aid. yum. Yea thats it. You like that don&#8217;t you. Yea. Drink the Kool-Aid. Gooood.</p>
<p>[<em>JR:    My comments' moderation policy is simple.  Everybody can post without moderation until they start posting multiple ad hominem attacks, twisting my or others' words to attack strawmen, or, most importantly, repeating long-debunked disinformation from denier talking points.  So I'm putting you on moderation on the basis of your first three comments, one of which I have already excised due to its flaming irrelevance.</p>
<p>My apologies to all my readers for needing a moderation policy at all, but as I'm sure most of you know if you frequent the blogosphere, websites without a moderation policy, quickly get taken over by deniers.</p>
<p>Also, as I have explained previously, if I allow people to post long-debunked misinformation, but then don't debunk it for the umpteenth time, new visitors would be left with the impression that it is a credible argument.  But if I do debunk it, then I end up wasting valuable time, so the deniers succeed anyway.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Screwbill</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/15/george-will-global-cooling-warming-debunked/#comment-31684</link>
		<dc:creator>Screwbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are nuts. Read &quot;Red Hot Lies About Global Warming&quot; and see how foolish you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are nuts. Read &#8220;Red Hot Lies About Global Warming&#8221; and see how foolish you are.</p>
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		<title>By: pilot</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/15/george-will-global-cooling-warming-debunked/#comment-31662</link>
		<dc:creator>pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR

You corrected my remark about the cold winter being experienced all over the world by saying :-

[JR: Not factually true. So far it has been an extremely warm winter globally.]

I presume this was from noaa.

You must be aware of their latest :

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/mqt/?n=lake_superior_ice

If North America, Europe and China have had an unusually cold winter - where was the warm bit?

Australia doesn&#039;t count btw  -  it is summer down there.

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  Seriously, you need to pay attention to climate science, not local weather.  January is the 5th warmest on record according to NASA. 8th by Hadley.  So the answer is, it was warm all over.  And yes Australia counts.  Since when do you ignore a whole continent?&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR</p>
<p>You corrected my remark about the cold winter being experienced all over the world by saying :-</p>
<p>[JR: Not factually true. So far it has been an extremely warm winter globally.]</p>
<p>I presume this was from noaa.</p>
<p>You must be aware of their latest :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crh.noaa.gov/mqt/?n=lake_superior_ice" rel="nofollow">http://www.crh.noaa.gov/mqt/?n=lake_superior_ice</a></p>
<p>If North America, Europe and China have had an unusually cold winter &#8211; where was the warm bit?</p>
<p>Australia doesn&#8217;t count btw  &#8211;  it is summer down there.</p>
<p>[<em>JR:  Seriously, you need to pay attention to climate science, not local weather.  January is the 5th warmest on record according to NASA. 8th by Hadley.  So the answer is, it was warm all over.  And yes Australia counts.  Since when do you ignore a whole continent?</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Pearse</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/15/george-will-global-cooling-warming-debunked/#comment-31641</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Pearse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the screeching about G.Will&#039;s column I searched it out to see what the fuss was about and found that it wasn&#039;t as bad as most journalist&#039;s writing on scientific topics whether for or against AGW. The issue seems to boil down to a modestly exaggerated statement about the arctic ice extent in January - which AGW supporters have to admit was several million square kilometres more than they had expected.  As far as Will&#039;s point goes, had he gone back to newspaper reports from the 19th Century to now, he would have noted that the warming-cooling scenarios have alternated about every 40 years or so. 

Why are scientists on the AGW side so abusive and testy? I have been shocked that scientists in this day and age would use the religiously freighted term &quot;deniers&quot; to brand those who dispute a hypothesis - this is better suited to a Medieval Synod of Bishop&#039;s branding of Galileo. Might it be that we have had (at least up here in Canada and Northern Europe) two very cold winters in a row after Dr. Hansen predicted a new world record for high temperature sometime in the next 2 to 3 years and many others, the disappearance of arctic ice in the very near future.  Another cold winter or two followed by cool summers and it might be necessary for safety sake for skeptics to wear a suit of armour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the screeching about G.Will&#8217;s column I searched it out to see what the fuss was about and found that it wasn&#8217;t as bad as most journalist&#8217;s writing on scientific topics whether for or against AGW. The issue seems to boil down to a modestly exaggerated statement about the arctic ice extent in January &#8211; which AGW supporters have to admit was several million square kilometres more than they had expected.  As far as Will&#8217;s point goes, had he gone back to newspaper reports from the 19th Century to now, he would have noted that the warming-cooling scenarios have alternated about every 40 years or so. </p>
<p>Why are scientists on the AGW side so abusive and testy? I have been shocked that scientists in this day and age would use the religiously freighted term &#8220;deniers&#8221; to brand those who dispute a hypothesis &#8211; this is better suited to a Medieval Synod of Bishop&#8217;s branding of Galileo. Might it be that we have had (at least up here in Canada and Northern Europe) two very cold winters in a row after Dr. Hansen predicted a new world record for high temperature sometime in the next 2 to 3 years and many others, the disappearance of arctic ice in the very near future.  Another cold winter or two followed by cool summers and it might be necessary for safety sake for skeptics to wear a suit of armour.</p>
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		<title>By: NHChemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>NHChemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I misspelled Hansen&#039;s name.  I guess it was Freudian.  In the movie Slapshot, the Hanson brothers tried to beat their opponents to a pulp, just as Dr. Hansen is trying to do now to those who point to facts that don&#039;t support his theories.  I apologize to those who are offended by my misspelling, but not to those who can&#039;t accept that there are many scientifically reviewed articles that contradict the current IPCC theories on global warming/climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I misspelled Hansen&#8217;s name.  I guess it was Freudian.  In the movie Slapshot, the Hanson brothers tried to beat their opponents to a pulp, just as Dr. Hansen is trying to do now to those who point to facts that don&#8217;t support his theories.  I apologize to those who are offended by my misspelling, but not to those who can&#8217;t accept that there are many scientifically reviewed articles that contradict the current IPCC theories on global warming/climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/15/george-will-global-cooling-warming-debunked/#comment-31352</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those interested in how the Arctic Sea Ice is doing this winter of 2008-2009, please see the raw data at: www.nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews

It appears the maximum 2008-2009 Arctic Sea Ice already exceeds the maximum from 2006-2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in how the Arctic Sea Ice is doing this winter of 2008-2009, please see the raw data at: <a href="http://www.nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews" rel="nofollow">http://www.nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews</a></p>
<p>It appears the maximum 2008-2009 Arctic Sea Ice already exceeds the maximum from 2006-2007.</p>
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		<title>By: wfmgeo</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/15/george-will-global-cooling-warming-debunked/#comment-31078</link>
		<dc:creator>wfmgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thoroughly disgusted by Will&#039;s comments.  Does he think for one glacial/interglacial cycle that truth matters?  Who does he think he isn&#039;t?  Personally, I have no future progeny in the balance so I can utter truth til the cows do not come home (due to the miles thick ice sheets that will never come again) (that&#039;s called a double entendre).  Irregardless of the fact that this interglacial, the Holocene Epoch, is the sixth interglacial since the Mid Pleistocene Transition (MPT), sequenced amongst the seven ice ages dating back the last 800,000 years, resulted in sea levels which arguably rose to as much as 170.6 feet above present sea level, mathematically, this was less than one eighth the predicted rise in anthropogenic sea level scientifically ascribed to Dr. Gore.  Dr. Gore&#039;s equivalent rise in earth&#039;s temperature of 2C is also almost 8 times larger than the 16C rise in temperatures known from proxy records to not have occurred since the last interglacial, the Eemian, when H. sapiens first set foot on the planet.  And the 2C rise in earth&#039;s temperatures that will occur by 2100, making it an order of magnitude faster than the typical 8-10C rises (the 16C rise was just an outlier) which happened in just a few years to no more than a decade 24 times since that first H. sapiens footfall.  

The problem is that the vast majority of mankind (that would be 88.9%) simply do not understand facts!  The facts are that predictions are reality.  They will occur sometime in the future.  We have at least 20 IPCC models that predict this!  Facts are things which have been predicted to happen, not to be confused mathematically with things which actually have happened.  I have not been preparing you for this since I did not begin this non-comment.

Pseudoscientists are easily recognizable as those that are nine times more susceptible to fact as opposed to rumor.  This is readily proven by the simple question &quot;Which is mankind&#039;s incorrect religion?&quot;  Be sure to inform them that they may not use extinct religions such as Zeus and the pantheon of gods which did not co-exist on Mount Olympus, or the non-existent extinct Egyptian non-religion which did not worship Rah, the non-sun god, or the non-cohort of lesser non-gods such as Isis or Horus.  

H. sapiens did not evolve from non-larger braincased protohominids such as Homo neanderthalensis, H. heidelbergensis, H. ergaster, H. erectus, H. rudolfensis, H. habilis, Australopithecines afrikanes and Paranthropus boisei.  We actually popped onto the scene 6,000 years ago, with nary a change in braincase size as all the aforementioned fossils were actually intricately and emmaculately executed scams that never suffered an abrupt climate change event.  

And these non-events did not occur quickly.  In contravention of known fact, the melting that rocketed us out of the last ice age did not occur in less than a decade.  And since nothing existed prior to 10,000 years ago (in fact not less than not 6.000 years ago), the cave paintings which do not record our lack of written communication skills are not to be found littering non-caves of Europe to this very day.  This is a rumor, which like science, you are only likely to be 11.1% susceptible to.

Oh, in case you are not interested, I actually do not have this here bridge that I would rather not sell you.  If you are uninterested be sure not to respond.

Otherwise, reverse the vast majority of it all and fail to enjoy!

The non-price for the non-bridge is not negotiable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thoroughly disgusted by Will&#8217;s comments.  Does he think for one glacial/interglacial cycle that truth matters?  Who does he think he isn&#8217;t?  Personally, I have no future progeny in the balance so I can utter truth til the cows do not come home (due to the miles thick ice sheets that will never come again) (that&#8217;s called a double entendre).  Irregardless of the fact that this interglacial, the Holocene Epoch, is the sixth interglacial since the Mid Pleistocene Transition (MPT), sequenced amongst the seven ice ages dating back the last 800,000 years, resulted in sea levels which arguably rose to as much as 170.6 feet above present sea level, mathematically, this was less than one eighth the predicted rise in anthropogenic sea level scientifically ascribed to Dr. Gore.  Dr. Gore&#8217;s equivalent rise in earth&#8217;s temperature of 2C is also almost 8 times larger than the 16C rise in temperatures known from proxy records to not have occurred since the last interglacial, the Eemian, when H. sapiens first set foot on the planet.  And the 2C rise in earth&#8217;s temperatures that will occur by 2100, making it an order of magnitude faster than the typical 8-10C rises (the 16C rise was just an outlier) which happened in just a few years to no more than a decade 24 times since that first H. sapiens footfall.  </p>
<p>The problem is that the vast majority of mankind (that would be 88.9%) simply do not understand facts!  The facts are that predictions are reality.  They will occur sometime in the future.  We have at least 20 IPCC models that predict this!  Facts are things which have been predicted to happen, not to be confused mathematically with things which actually have happened.  I have not been preparing you for this since I did not begin this non-comment.</p>
<p>Pseudoscientists are easily recognizable as those that are nine times more susceptible to fact as opposed to rumor.  This is readily proven by the simple question &#8220;Which is mankind&#8217;s incorrect religion?&#8221;  Be sure to inform them that they may not use extinct religions such as Zeus and the pantheon of gods which did not co-exist on Mount Olympus, or the non-existent extinct Egyptian non-religion which did not worship Rah, the non-sun god, or the non-cohort of lesser non-gods such as Isis or Horus.  </p>
<p>H. sapiens did not evolve from non-larger braincased protohominids such as Homo neanderthalensis, H. heidelbergensis, H. ergaster, H. erectus, H. rudolfensis, H. habilis, Australopithecines afrikanes and Paranthropus boisei.  We actually popped onto the scene 6,000 years ago, with nary a change in braincase size as all the aforementioned fossils were actually intricately and emmaculately executed scams that never suffered an abrupt climate change event.  </p>
<p>And these non-events did not occur quickly.  In contravention of known fact, the melting that rocketed us out of the last ice age did not occur in less than a decade.  And since nothing existed prior to 10,000 years ago (in fact not less than not 6.000 years ago), the cave paintings which do not record our lack of written communication skills are not to be found littering non-caves of Europe to this very day.  This is a rumor, which like science, you are only likely to be 11.1% susceptible to.</p>
<p>Oh, in case you are not interested, I actually do not have this here bridge that I would rather not sell you.  If you are uninterested be sure not to respond.</p>
<p>Otherwise, reverse the vast majority of it all and fail to enjoy!</p>
<p>The non-price for the non-bridge is not negotiable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Fabos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Fabos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With some of the richest industries for vested interests willing to back any science based &quot;it&#039;s not our emissions&quot; theory for climate change all the denialists can give is the same old recycled and debunked talking points? If that&#039;s the best they&#039;ve got  the debate is over. It does still surprise and dismay me that someone who claims to be a scientist will accept Wills version over the corrections provided by the Arctic Research Centre. Global cooling, then or now, that no world class climate study group  agrees with? Wow. Am I using ad hom when referring to such people as ASSes. I&#039;ll go on taking the output of the world&#039;s leading climate research institutions as our best understanding of what&#039;s happening to climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With some of the richest industries for vested interests willing to back any science based &#8220;it&#8217;s not our emissions&#8221; theory for climate change all the denialists can give is the same old recycled and debunked talking points? If that&#8217;s the best they&#8217;ve got  the debate is over. It does still surprise and dismay me that someone who claims to be a scientist will accept Wills version over the corrections provided by the Arctic Research Centre. Global cooling, then or now, that no world class climate study group  agrees with? Wow. Am I using ad hom when referring to such people as ASSes. I&#8217;ll go on taking the output of the world&#8217;s leading climate research institutions as our best understanding of what&#8217;s happening to climate.</p>
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		<title>By: larrydalooza</title>
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		<dc:creator>larrydalooza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on those that would try to end this glorious period of CO2 prosperity... Ending this horrible CO2 drought marks an era plant life plethora. Claiming CO2 has any direct relation to the heating of the Earth is cultish. Now drop it before your AGW takes to sacrificing chickens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on those that would try to end this glorious period of CO2 prosperity&#8230; Ending this horrible CO2 drought marks an era plant life plethora. Claiming CO2 has any direct relation to the heating of the Earth is cultish. Now drop it before your AGW takes to sacrificing chickens.</p>
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		<title>By: stas peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>stas peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a collection of self-conceited uneducated, although you think you are, self-conceited oafs i have never seen. 

Does a single one of you actually have any scientific degree or does your basket weaving, journalism, legal or ecology degrees, qualify you, as in any way educated? 

You all seem to accept the preachings of a Southern Fire-and Brimstone spouting televangelist and who doesn&#039;t even believe his own horse manure.  Else why would he buy a mega million dollar mansion at sea level as it is soon to be buried under 20-60 feet of seawater?  The hayseed from Tennessee, who never passed more than one Science course in his  life and even flunked out of Divinity School. 

I unlike you hold advanced science degrees, have actually read the genuine Science papers and publications on the subject  and detest the dumbed down,contradictory, fear-mongering, popularization propaganda being spewed about, that is about all that you could possibly understand.  

Mr. Will is quite correct.  

Global polar ice is at the same level, as it was, as the previous warming cycle phase commenced, in 1978.  The World is cooling in this periodic cycle, has been doing so for 11 years, and will continue to do so for several decades, before the World turning warmer once again.    

AGW appears to be a global political hoax, and tax raising scam.  The Clueless One, in Way over his Head, proposes an 600 billion dollar annual tax increase to disipense eco-indulgences, for no reason, and you all cluck knowingly, approve, and buy the horse manure like eager horse flys at a repast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a collection of self-conceited uneducated, although you think you are, self-conceited oafs i have never seen. </p>
<p>Does a single one of you actually have any scientific degree or does your basket weaving, journalism, legal or ecology degrees, qualify you, as in any way educated? </p>
<p>You all seem to accept the preachings of a Southern Fire-and Brimstone spouting televangelist and who doesn&#8217;t even believe his own horse manure.  Else why would he buy a mega million dollar mansion at sea level as it is soon to be buried under 20-60 feet of seawater?  The hayseed from Tennessee, who never passed more than one Science course in his  life and even flunked out of Divinity School. </p>
<p>I unlike you hold advanced science degrees, have actually read the genuine Science papers and publications on the subject  and detest the dumbed down,contradictory, fear-mongering, popularization propaganda being spewed about, that is about all that you could possibly understand.  </p>
<p>Mr. Will is quite correct.  </p>
<p>Global polar ice is at the same level, as it was, as the previous warming cycle phase commenced, in 1978.  The World is cooling in this periodic cycle, has been doing so for 11 years, and will continue to do so for several decades, before the World turning warmer once again.    </p>
<p>AGW appears to be a global political hoax, and tax raising scam.  The Clueless One, in Way over his Head, proposes an 600 billion dollar annual tax increase to disipense eco-indulgences, for no reason, and you all cluck knowingly, approve, and buy the horse manure like eager horse flys at a repast.</p>
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