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	<title>Comments on: Unstaining Al Gore&#8217;s good name 2:  He is not &#8220;guilty of inaccuracies and overstatements&#8221; and is owed a correction and apology by the New York Times</title>
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		<title>By: HELLO!</title>
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		<dc:creator>HELLO!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCANDALS! SCANDALS! SCANDALS!

MANY OF THE WORST CASES OF RACIAL PREJUDICE IN WORLD HISTORY!

LONG LIVE PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!

Barack Obama is a racial minority and does not like racism.

WORLDWIDE DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO SCANDALS:

(I) I do solemnly swear by Almighty God that George W. Bush committed atrocious, racist, hate crimes of epic proportions and with the stench of terrorism which I am not at liberty to mention. Many people know what Bush did. And many people will know what Bush did—even until the end of the world. Bush was absolute evil. Bush is now like a fugitive from justice. In any case, Bush will go down in history in infamy.

(II) It is opined that Bill Clinton committed terrifying, racist, hate crimes during his presidency, and I am not free to say anything further about it. ‘Be sure your sins will find you out’ (Numbers 32:23).

(III) What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States? It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.

(IV) I know it may be hard to believe. However, Ronald Wilson Reagan committed horrible, racist, hate crimes during his presidency.

- The Disseminating Machine

(There are thousands of copies on the Internet in the U.S.A. indicating the contents of (I), (II), (III), and (IV). For example, one can go to Google right now, type “George W. Bush committed hate crimes of epic proportions and with the stench of terrorism,” hit “Enter,” and readily find 1,000 or more copies indicating content of (I). For example, one can go to Msn right now, type “It is opined that Bill Clinton committed racist hate crimes, and I am not free to say anything further about it,” hit “Enter,” and readily find more than 500 copies indicating content of (II). For example, one can go to Msn right now, type “George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes,” hit “Enter,” and readily find more than 260 copies indicating content of (III). For example, one can go to Msn right now, type “Ronald Wilson Reagan committed horrible, racist, hate crimes during his presidency,” hit “Enter,” and readily find more than 270 copies indicating content of (IV). The contents of (I), (II), (III), and (IV) exist very extensively in all major search engines in the U.S.A. and in numerous search engines beyond the U.S.A. There are thousands of copies in numerous countries around the world. For example, there are countless copies on the Internet in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Korea, Norway, Russia, Sweden, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Ukraine, etc. Copies in foreign countries are typically written in respective foreign languages through the use of computer programs on the Internet that make such translations possible.)

“BAD NEWS FROM THE UNITED STATES: ON THE RACIST HATE CRIMES AND ETERNAL INFAMIES OF GEORGE W. BUSH, BILL CLINTON, GEORGE H.W. BUSH, AND RONALD REAGAN” BLOG OF ANDREW YU-JEN WANG

badnewsfromtheunitedstates.blogspot.com
________________
‘If only there could be a BAN against invention that bottled up memories like scent &amp; they never faded &amp; they never got stale.’ (Please feel free to go to baidu.com, type ‘ban invention that bottled up memories,’ and hit ‘Enter.’)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCANDALS! SCANDALS! SCANDALS!</p>
<p>MANY OF THE WORST CASES OF RACIAL PREJUDICE IN WORLD HISTORY!</p>
<p>LONG LIVE PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!</p>
<p>Barack Obama is a racial minority and does not like racism.</p>
<p>WORLDWIDE DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO SCANDALS:</p>
<p>(I) I do solemnly swear by Almighty God that George W. Bush committed atrocious, racist, hate crimes of epic proportions and with the stench of terrorism which I am not at liberty to mention. Many people know what Bush did. And many people will know what Bush did—even until the end of the world. Bush was absolute evil. Bush is now like a fugitive from justice. In any case, Bush will go down in history in infamy.</p>
<p>(II) It is opined that Bill Clinton committed terrifying, racist, hate crimes during his presidency, and I am not free to say anything further about it. ‘Be sure your sins will find you out’ (Numbers 32:23).</p>
<p>(III) What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States? It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.</p>
<p>(IV) I know it may be hard to believe. However, Ronald Wilson Reagan committed horrible, racist, hate crimes during his presidency.</p>
<p>- The Disseminating Machine</p>
<p>(There are thousands of copies on the Internet in the U.S.A. indicating the contents of (I), (II), (III), and (IV). For example, one can go to Google right now, type “George W. Bush committed hate crimes of epic proportions and with the stench of terrorism,” hit “Enter,” and readily find 1,000 or more copies indicating content of (I). For example, one can go to Msn right now, type “It is opined that Bill Clinton committed racist hate crimes, and I am not free to say anything further about it,” hit “Enter,” and readily find more than 500 copies indicating content of (II). For example, one can go to Msn right now, type “George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes,” hit “Enter,” and readily find more than 260 copies indicating content of (III). For example, one can go to Msn right now, type “Ronald Wilson Reagan committed horrible, racist, hate crimes during his presidency,” hit “Enter,” and readily find more than 270 copies indicating content of (IV). The contents of (I), (II), (III), and (IV) exist very extensively in all major search engines in the U.S.A. and in numerous search engines beyond the U.S.A. There are thousands of copies in numerous countries around the world. For example, there are countless copies on the Internet in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Korea, Norway, Russia, Sweden, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Ukraine, etc. Copies in foreign countries are typically written in respective foreign languages through the use of computer programs on the Internet that make such translations possible.)</p>
<p>“BAD NEWS FROM THE UNITED STATES: ON THE RACIST HATE CRIMES AND ETERNAL INFAMIES OF GEORGE W. BUSH, BILL CLINTON, GEORGE H.W. BUSH, AND RONALD REAGAN” BLOG OF ANDREW YU-JEN WANG</p>
<p>badnewsfromtheunitedstates.blogspot.com<br />
________________<br />
‘If only there could be a BAN against invention that bottled up memories like scent &amp; they never faded &amp; they never got stale.’ (Please feel free to go to baidu.com, type ‘ban invention that bottled up memories,’ and hit ‘Enter.’)</p>
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		<title>By: klaus</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-33890</link>
		<dc:creator>klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Inconvenient Gore: http://klaustoon.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/olther-stuff-an-inconvenient-gore/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Inconvenient Gore: <a href="http://klaustoon.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/olther-stuff-an-inconvenient-gore/" rel="nofollow">http://klaustoon.wordpress.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>03/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>22/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>olther-stuff-an-inconvenient-gore/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
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		<title>By: afrjc</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31404</link>
		<dc:creator>afrjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know day-old posts are ancient history on the web, but one more thought re: rhetoric and the effectiveness of posts like this.

Joe ends his reply to me by noting that all he was aiming for was a result I said he achieved, i.e., “I think Romm is probably right on the merits.&quot;  I don&#039;t take those words back, I think he probably did.

But I did intentionally include the word &quot;probably&quot; in that original statement.  I think its importance may not have been fully recognized.

The point was that while I think Joe &lt;i&gt;probably&lt;/i&gt; wins the argument on the merits the posts are so stream-of-consciousness and bloated, so clearly &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; edited for greater organization, clarity, succinctness, etc., that it is genuinely difficult to tell whether Joe wins or is just, well, a crank.  That&#039;s the real worry about good information that&#039;s poorly presented -- that it can lose occasional readers and critics who can&#039;t or aren&#039;t willing to tell it from run-of-the-mill crankery.  And it presents real obstacles to even those (me?) who would really like to know and generally give Joe&#039;s insights the benefit of the doubt.

There were (as I read it) two points to the two posts:  (1) to call Revkin out on yet another in the genre of false-equivalence articles and (2) to do the hard and detailed work of detailing how and why the equivalence really was false.  Both were worth doing.  But neither was done as effectively as they could have been given the excess verbiage, poor organization, and rambling nature of the posts.  

(I grade papers -- I recognize these posts as falling into the sort &quot;Paper written by an otherwise &#039;A&#039; student who wrote at the last minute, didn&#039;t proofread adequately, didn&#039;t organize in advance, and ended up with a &#039;B-&#039;.&quot;  &#039;B&#039; students who try to do this really fall on their faces.  If Joe wasn&#039;t an &#039;A&#039; student there&#039;s no way I could even have said he &#039;probably&#039; wins on the merits.)

I suggested aiming for 300 words and no repetition.  Joe says that can&#039;t be done given the second goal I mention above.  OK -- so organize and split the posts.  The first goal could have been accomplished better in succinct stand-alone post with links to detailed support -- 300 words or less.  The second could have been done better with more care, organization, and editing.  Longer would be OK, but better organized.

I don&#039;t want to be too harsh here.  Joe, you and your site do a lot -- &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt; -- of good.  But there are these unfortunate instances where blogging through dictation software (http://climateprogress.org/2007/07/29/the-best-voice-dictation-software/) really does get in the way of achieving what I take to be one of the blog&#039;s primary goals -- the communication of important information.  

Anyway, thanks again for your efforts and responsiveness.  You already said you&#039;d &quot;try harder,&quot; and I believe you -- so no reply really necessary.  Just thought I&#039;d add a bit about  &quot;probably.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know day-old posts are ancient history on the web, but one more thought re: rhetoric and the effectiveness of posts like this.</p>
<p>Joe ends his reply to me by noting that all he was aiming for was a result I said he achieved, i.e., “I think Romm is probably right on the merits.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t take those words back, I think he probably did.</p>
<p>But I did intentionally include the word &#8220;probably&#8221; in that original statement.  I think its importance may not have been fully recognized.</p>
<p>The point was that while I think Joe <i>probably</i> wins the argument on the merits the posts are so stream-of-consciousness and bloated, so clearly <i>not</i> edited for greater organization, clarity, succinctness, etc., that it is genuinely difficult to tell whether Joe wins or is just, well, a crank.  That&#8217;s the real worry about good information that&#8217;s poorly presented &#8212; that it can lose occasional readers and critics who can&#8217;t or aren&#8217;t willing to tell it from run-of-the-mill crankery.  And it presents real obstacles to even those (me?) who would really like to know and generally give Joe&#8217;s insights the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>There were (as I read it) two points to the two posts:  (1) to call Revkin out on yet another in the genre of false-equivalence articles and (2) to do the hard and detailed work of detailing how and why the equivalence really was false.  Both were worth doing.  But neither was done as effectively as they could have been given the excess verbiage, poor organization, and rambling nature of the posts.  </p>
<p>(I grade papers &#8212; I recognize these posts as falling into the sort &#8220;Paper written by an otherwise &#8216;A&#8217; student who wrote at the last minute, didn&#8217;t proofread adequately, didn&#8217;t organize in advance, and ended up with a &#8216;B-&#8217;.&#8221;  &#8216;B&#8217; students who try to do this really fall on their faces.  If Joe wasn&#8217;t an &#8216;A&#8217; student there&#8217;s no way I could even have said he &#8216;probably&#8217; wins on the merits.)</p>
<p>I suggested aiming for 300 words and no repetition.  Joe says that can&#8217;t be done given the second goal I mention above.  OK &#8212; so organize and split the posts.  The first goal could have been accomplished better in succinct stand-alone post with links to detailed support &#8212; 300 words or less.  The second could have been done better with more care, organization, and editing.  Longer would be OK, but better organized.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to be too harsh here.  Joe, you and your site do a lot &#8212; <i>a lot</i> &#8212; of good.  But there are these unfortunate instances where blogging through dictation software (<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2007/07/29/the-best-voice-dictation-software/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2007/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>07/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>29/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>the-best-voice-dictation-software/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a>) really does get in the way of achieving what I take to be one of the blog&#8217;s primary goals &#8212; the communication of important information.  </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks again for your efforts and responsiveness.  You already said you&#8217;d &#8220;try harder,&#8221; and I believe you &#8212; so no reply really necessary.  Just thought I&#8217;d add a bit about  &#8220;probably.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31348</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, thanks for doing this.  You might also add that refuting this nonsense on Gore will serve to undermine future use of this incident by Roger Pielke Jr. as an &quot;Honest Broker&quot; talking point.  

That&#039;s why Tom Yulsman is here complaining. 

Nice try, Tom.

By the way, Tom.....why is it that the only person using the term &quot;evil&quot; in connection with Andrew Revkin is....Tom Yulsman?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, thanks for doing this.  You might also add that refuting this nonsense on Gore will serve to undermine future use of this incident by Roger Pielke Jr. as an &#8220;Honest Broker&#8221; talking point.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Tom Yulsman is here complaining. </p>
<p>Nice try, Tom.</p>
<p>By the way, Tom&#8230;..why is it that the only person using the term &#8220;evil&#8221; in connection with Andrew Revkin is&#8230;.Tom Yulsman?!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tobis</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31344</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tobis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re florifulgulator&#039;s tightrope:

Yes, that&#039;s the charitable interpretation, but once in a while he has to move forward, else what&#039;s the point of Revkin being on the tightrope in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re florifulgulator&#8217;s tightrope:</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s the charitable interpretation, but once in a while he has to move forward, else what&#8217;s the point of Revkin being on the tightrope in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31320</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Revkin is the best climate journalist reaching a mass audience, and for that we should be thankful.  But my oh my is he a sensitive little cuss!  My hunch is that he doesn&#039;t get to react forcefully to his editors, so he&#039;s taking it out on you.  If he is writing for such a mass audience, he had better understand that are many readers, like Joe, that will be critiquing every single word in every single sentence.  He shouldn&#039;t be pandering to our crowd, but he should be treating criticisms with much more respect.  I find his response to Joe quite irresponsible, and it only makes our crowd push back harder when Revkin grants more leeway to deniers than he does to realists.  Like Flori above states, he&#039;s stuck in the middle.  But if he doesn&#039;t get grief from our side, then his writing will drift even further to the dark side.   Keep it comin&#039; Joe!

Oh, and Gore&#039;s a politician, and Will&#039;s a journalist.  One is supposed to be held to the highest standard in print, while the other&#039;s speeches are understood to be coming from a politician that will, by sheer nature, be somewhat unclear on matters such those Revkin wasted so much ink on.  Perhaps this was more an attempt at equating the truthiness of journo&#039;s to politicians?  That&#039;s even more despicable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Revkin is the best climate journalist reaching a mass audience, and for that we should be thankful.  But my oh my is he a sensitive little cuss!  My hunch is that he doesn&#8217;t get to react forcefully to his editors, so he&#8217;s taking it out on you.  If he is writing for such a mass audience, he had better understand that are many readers, like Joe, that will be critiquing every single word in every single sentence.  He shouldn&#8217;t be pandering to our crowd, but he should be treating criticisms with much more respect.  I find his response to Joe quite irresponsible, and it only makes our crowd push back harder when Revkin grants more leeway to deniers than he does to realists.  Like Flori above states, he&#8217;s stuck in the middle.  But if he doesn&#8217;t get grief from our side, then his writing will drift even further to the dark side.   Keep it comin&#8217; Joe!</p>
<p>Oh, and Gore&#8217;s a politician, and Will&#8217;s a journalist.  One is supposed to be held to the highest standard in print, while the other&#8217;s speeches are understood to be coming from a politician that will, by sheer nature, be somewhat unclear on matters such those Revkin wasted so much ink on.  Perhaps this was more an attempt at equating the truthiness of journo&#8217;s to politicians?  That&#8217;s even more despicable!</p>
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		<title>By: Florifulgurator (Germany)</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31310</link>
		<dc:creator>Florifulgurator (Germany)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite this and other annoyances I still admire and appreciate Andy Revkin.
His workload is amazing. As is the volume of his contacts to scientists: I guess on no other blog than his you can find so many quotes or life comments by real scientists. (Alas there&#039;s also lots of denialists there - but what would you expect at such a place?)
The dilemma/challenge is: 1) To keep that job at that paper.  2) To reach an audience as wide as possible. 1)+2)=3) Have maximium impact.
Joe Romm may concentrate on preaching details to the choir.
Andy Revkin&#039;s job is a bit different.

I have found myself yelling at Andy e.g. for linking to Luboš&#039; BS blog, for citing Lindzen or Michaels, etc. etc. But then methinks it is part of his mission to try to engage these people, not piss them off immediately. Quite a tightrope to walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite this and other annoyances I still admire and appreciate Andy Revkin.<br />
His workload is amazing. As is the volume of his contacts to scientists: I guess on no other blog than his you can find so many quotes or life comments by real scientists. (Alas there&#8217;s also lots of denialists there &#8211; but what would you expect at such a place?)<br />
The dilemma/challenge is: 1) To keep that job at that paper.  2) To reach an audience as wide as possible. 1)+2)=3) Have maximium impact.<br />
Joe Romm may concentrate on preaching details to the choir.<br />
Andy Revkin&#8217;s job is a bit different.</p>
<p>I have found myself yelling at Andy e.g. for linking to Luboš&#8217; BS blog, for citing Lindzen or Michaels, etc. etc. But then methinks it is part of his mission to try to engage these people, not piss them off immediately. Quite a tightrope to walk.</p>
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		<title>By: afrjc</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31306</link>
		<dc:creator>afrjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe, 

Thanks for the reply -- I do appreciate your thoughtful replies to peoples&#039; comments, mine included.  And yes, important to be right on the merits.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe, </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply &#8212; I do appreciate your thoughtful replies to peoples&#8217; comments, mine included.  And yes, important to be right on the merits.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Hmpf</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31297</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s about demonising Revkin; it&#039;s about making clear that what he *did* was wrong in the strongest of senses. There are different degrees of &#039;wrong&#039;; sometimes it&#039;s necessary to make clear that an act is not just wrong in an everyday, we-all-make-mistakes kind of way. Not every &#039;wrong&#039; is also strongly wrong in a moral sense, so when something is, you need a word to indicate it.

(Note: doing something evil does not make a person evil. We are all capable of doing evil.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s about demonising Revkin; it&#8217;s about making clear that what he *did* was wrong in the strongest of senses. There are different degrees of &#8216;wrong&#8217;; sometimes it&#8217;s necessary to make clear that an act is not just wrong in an everyday, we-all-make-mistakes kind of way. Not every &#8216;wrong&#8217; is also strongly wrong in a moral sense, so when something is, you need a word to indicate it.</p>
<p>(Note: doing something evil does not make a person evil. We are all capable of doing evil.)</p>
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		<title>By: lgcarey</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/02/al-gore-no-exaggeration-roger-pielke-andy-revkin-2/#comment-31294</link>
		<dc:creator>lgcarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Michael Tobis for his very thoughtful post.  Not to pile on, but I have certainly become thoroughly frustrated with Revkin&#039;s behavior.  I would by no means claim that he personally is &quot;evil&quot;, but I would agree with Michael that his choice to structure his story on Gore and Will was indeed an evil choice.  

Revkin is one of the few reporters who is thoroughly familiar with the details, history, development, timeframes and personalities involved in global climate disruption, and also with the horrendous risks posed to all humankind by the crisis and the very, very pressing timescale (e.g., serious droughts and water shortages due to disappearing glaciers and snowpacks maybe just around the corner, but surely not further away than a decade or so).  Accordingly, he (yet again!) indulged his very obvious habit of crafting a story which strongly implies (a) that the two sides are roughly equivalent in credence and scientific support and (b) that the issue is essentially POLITICAL rather than a matter of PHYSICS (though he always carefully avoids actually stating this).  What is evil about this presentation of false equivalence is that it is thoroughly misleading to casual observers (like me, until recently!) who look to the &quot;paper of record&quot; to figure out what issues are of real concern -- a lot of those folks would have the bejeebers scared out of them if Revkin consistently told the story straight, instead of falling back into the same kind of &quot;he said, she said&quot; reporting, looking to convey faux balance.  Occasionally he actually hits the nail on the head, but this is usually followed shortly by yet another adventure in fake equivalence.  I don&#039;t know what the deal is with Revkin, but on balance he is probably doing more harm than good.  The whole Gore/Will thing was revolting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Michael Tobis for his very thoughtful post.  Not to pile on, but I have certainly become thoroughly frustrated with Revkin&#8217;s behavior.  I would by no means claim that he personally is &#8220;evil&#8221;, but I would agree with Michael that his choice to structure his story on Gore and Will was indeed an evil choice.  </p>
<p>Revkin is one of the few reporters who is thoroughly familiar with the details, history, development, timeframes and personalities involved in global climate disruption, and also with the horrendous risks posed to all humankind by the crisis and the very, very pressing timescale (e.g., serious droughts and water shortages due to disappearing glaciers and snowpacks maybe just around the corner, but surely not further away than a decade or so).  Accordingly, he (yet again!) indulged his very obvious habit of crafting a story which strongly implies (a) that the two sides are roughly equivalent in credence and scientific support and (b) that the issue is essentially POLITICAL rather than a matter of PHYSICS (though he always carefully avoids actually stating this).  What is evil about this presentation of false equivalence is that it is thoroughly misleading to casual observers (like me, until recently!) who look to the &#8220;paper of record&#8221; to figure out what issues are of real concern &#8212; a lot of those folks would have the bejeebers scared out of them if Revkin consistently told the story straight, instead of falling back into the same kind of &#8220;he said, she said&#8221; reporting, looking to convey faux balance.  Occasionally he actually hits the nail on the head, but this is usually followed shortly by yet another adventure in fake equivalence.  I don&#8217;t know what the deal is with Revkin, but on balance he is probably doing more harm than good.  The whole Gore/Will thing was revolting.</p>
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