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	<title>Comments on: Solar PV market doubled to 6 Gigawatts in 2008 &#8212; U.S. left in dust, having invented the technology</title>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/17/world-solar-photovoltaic-pv-market-installations-capacity-production-solarbuzz/#comment-227073</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you looking at end sales as the metric to gauge US involvement in the solar industry.  You need to look at profits.  Sure a Chinese solar module maker has a high share of sales.  But they don&#039;t make any money.  The money is made in the hard areas.  Either poly production or thin film production.  And that&#039;s where the US competes.  Why do you want a bunch of commodity, low wage, unskilled labor jobs here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you looking at end sales as the metric to gauge US involvement in the solar industry.  You need to look at profits.  Sure a Chinese solar module maker has a high share of sales.  But they don&#8217;t make any money.  The money is made in the hard areas.  Either poly production or thin film production.  And that&#8217;s where the US competes.  Why do you want a bunch of commodity, low wage, unskilled labor jobs here?</p>
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		<title>By: GODFREY  LAMBART</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/17/world-solar-photovoltaic-pv-market-installations-capacity-production-solarbuzz/#comment-118784</link>
		<dc:creator>GODFREY  LAMBART</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: PRICES C&amp;F KENYA INTERNATIONAL AIR PORT
DUNCAN ELVIS SOLAR  GARAGE 
PO BOX 33833 KAMPALA UGANDA 
PLOT 2-4 INDUSTRIAL AREA 
TEL:256782-493743 
FAX:256414-345597 
ATTN GODFREY  LAMBART 
  
ATTN TO THE SALES  DEPARTMENT 
RE: PURCHASE OF SOLAR PANELS  GEN SETS ETC 
We are a Company in uganda dealing in the above mentioned items . 
For that matter we would like to get a price quotation C&amp;F KENYA Iinternational air port.
 Avail us with the price in US$ to enable us give you our order. we are required to supply them to an organisation here in Uganda (we won a tender to supply these items for a period of 3 years. 
We hope ouR request will meet your kind approval and avail us with the requested information as soon as you are ready with it. 
Thanks 
GODFREY  LAMBART    
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: PRICES C&amp;F KENYA INTERNATIONAL AIR PORT<br />
DUNCAN ELVIS SOLAR  GARAGE<br />
PO BOX 33833 KAMPALA UGANDA<br />
PLOT 2-4 INDUSTRIAL AREA<br />
TEL:256782-493743<br />
FAX:256414-345597<br />
ATTN GODFREY  LAMBART </p>
<p>ATTN TO THE SALES  DEPARTMENT<br />
RE: PURCHASE OF SOLAR PANELS  GEN SETS ETC<br />
We are a Company in uganda dealing in the above mentioned items .<br />
For that matter we would like to get a price quotation C&amp;F KENYA Iinternational air port.<br />
 Avail us with the price in US$ to enable us give you our order. we are required to supply them to an organisation here in Uganda (we won a tender to supply these items for a period of 3 years.<br />
We hope ouR request will meet your kind approval and avail us with the requested information as soon as you are ready with it.<br />
Thanks<br />
GODFREY  LAMBART<br />
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/17/world-solar-photovoltaic-pv-market-installations-capacity-production-solarbuzz/#comment-38169</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you guys have a recommendation section, i&#039;d like to suggest some stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you guys have a recommendation section, i&#8217;d like to suggest some stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, I don&#039;t agree with it all but nice none-the-less</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I don&#8217;t agree with it all but nice none-the-less</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/17/world-solar-photovoltaic-pv-market-installations-capacity-production-solarbuzz/#comment-33883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. did not invent the technology. For a discussion, http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/02/america_invented_everything.php

[&lt;em&gt;JR:  That is not a discussion.  We invented the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first practical solar cells&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;  Other people invented impractical ones.  Congrats to them!&lt;/em&gt;] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. did not invent the technology. For a discussion, <a href="http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/02/america_invented_everything.php" rel="nofollow">http://politics.theatlantic.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>02/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>america_invented_everything.php</a></p>
<p>[<em>JR:  That is not a discussion.  We invented the "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell" rel="nofollow">first practical solar cells</a>."  Other people invented impractical ones.  Congrats to them!</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: J4zonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>J4zonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To put Michael Hoexster&#039;s point another way, if you&#039;re fairly well off and get cancer, do you 

A. shop around for the cheapest treatment and then go with waving magnets over your head because it costs less than surgery? or do you 

B. decide what you want, do it, and then pay whatever it costs? 

(This is leaving out C. get insurance ahead of time and don&#039;t worry about the cost at the time, because it&#039;s too late for that if you have cancer and put off insurance).

Similarly, Yugos and BMWs will both get you places, but no one looks at both and buys the Yugo because it&#039;s cheaper. 

Surgery and magnets, like Yugos and BMWs, are NOT THE SAME PRODUCTS. Coal, oil and nuclear vs conservation, solar and wind are also NOT THE SAME PRODUCTS! Fossil/nukes will get you energy, cancer, reduced democracy and the end of civilization...while solar/wind/conserv. will get you energy and NOT. when you are a fabulously wealthy society as we are, you figure out what you need and then pay whatever it costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put Michael Hoexster&#8217;s point another way, if you&#8217;re fairly well off and get cancer, do you </p>
<p>A. shop around for the cheapest treatment and then go with waving magnets over your head because it costs less than surgery? or do you </p>
<p>B. decide what you want, do it, and then pay whatever it costs? </p>
<p>(This is leaving out C. get insurance ahead of time and don&#8217;t worry about the cost at the time, because it&#8217;s too late for that if you have cancer and put off insurance).</p>
<p>Similarly, Yugos and BMWs will both get you places, but no one looks at both and buys the Yugo because it&#8217;s cheaper. </p>
<p>Surgery and magnets, like Yugos and BMWs, are NOT THE SAME PRODUCTS. Coal, oil and nuclear vs conservation, solar and wind are also NOT THE SAME PRODUCTS! Fossil/nukes will get you energy, cancer, reduced democracy and the end of civilization&#8230;while solar/wind/conserv. will get you energy and NOT. when you are a fabulously wealthy society as we are, you figure out what you need and then pay whatever it costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilmot McCutchen</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/17/world-solar-photovoltaic-pv-market-installations-capacity-production-solarbuzz/#comment-33445</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilmot McCutchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The retarded development of US-invented technology is a national disgrace.  What are the reasons?

(1) Politicians and the public are unaware that anything is wrong.  We hear constantly about American ingenuity as the key to our economic recovery, as if there were a nurturing environment here for innovation, which is not true any more.

(2) Big business hates innovation (&quot;disruptive&quot; technology = obsolete inventory), and big business owns enough lawmakers to make life difficult for those who want to develop new solutions to climate problems.  A &quot;small business&quot; is defined by federal law as having less than 500 employees, so breaks intended for real small business go to what most people would consider big business. Why is there no microbusiness category, say 20 employees or less? That is where innovation will be coming from. Taxes and paperwork and other federal requirements appropriate to big business are a crushing burden for the microbusiness.

(3) Venture capitalists, and angel investors, will not look at any enterprise which is not already shipping product, and they expect 10 times their money back after two years.  So technology development startup money, to get through the Valley of Death, is not available in America unless you have some product that requires minimal manufacturing, like software.  

(4) Government grants support pure academic research in exotic froniers of particle physics, etc., which does not help with climate change technology development.  Applied science is held in low regard, while string theory and pure science is the ticket to academic advancement. Technology transfer out of the labs is not working, and mission-driven science is resisted as an infringement of academic freedom, so America&#039;s abandoned inventions are adopted by foreign competitors.

(5) We scorn the inventor and exalt the Wall Street banker.  So what do you expect to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The retarded development of US-invented technology is a national disgrace.  What are the reasons?</p>
<p>(1) Politicians and the public are unaware that anything is wrong.  We hear constantly about American ingenuity as the key to our economic recovery, as if there were a nurturing environment here for innovation, which is not true any more.</p>
<p>(2) Big business hates innovation (&#8221;disruptive&#8221; technology = obsolete inventory), and big business owns enough lawmakers to make life difficult for those who want to develop new solutions to climate problems.  A &#8220;small business&#8221; is defined by federal law as having less than 500 employees, so breaks intended for real small business go to what most people would consider big business. Why is there no microbusiness category, say 20 employees or less? That is where innovation will be coming from. Taxes and paperwork and other federal requirements appropriate to big business are a crushing burden for the microbusiness.</p>
<p>(3) Venture capitalists, and angel investors, will not look at any enterprise which is not already shipping product, and they expect 10 times their money back after two years.  So technology development startup money, to get through the Valley of Death, is not available in America unless you have some product that requires minimal manufacturing, like software.  </p>
<p>(4) Government grants support pure academic research in exotic froniers of particle physics, etc., which does not help with climate change technology development.  Applied science is held in low regard, while string theory and pure science is the ticket to academic advancement. Technology transfer out of the labs is not working, and mission-driven science is resisted as an infringement of academic freedom, so America&#8217;s abandoned inventions are adopted by foreign competitors.</p>
<p>(5) We scorn the inventor and exalt the Wall Street banker.  So what do you expect to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Maarten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the growth of PV in Germany is impressive (and quite costly to the electricity consumers -- which I don&#039;t mind, I don&#039;t live there), Germany could have saved a lot more CO2 with the stroke of a pen: Introducing general speed limits on the motorways, like all other civilized countries. But the car industry, you know, fearing the could no longer peddle their over-motorized luxury vehicles, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the growth of PV in Germany is impressive (and quite costly to the electricity consumers &#8212; which I don&#8217;t mind, I don&#8217;t live there), Germany could have saved a lot more CO2 with the stroke of a pen: Introducing general speed limits on the motorways, like all other civilized countries. But the car industry, you know, fearing the could no longer peddle their over-motorized luxury vehicles, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The top graph suggests Germany and Spain have strange priorities. Maybe they&#039;re right and everybody else is wrong; then again, maybe not. At least Spain has solar resources to exploit. 

This also suggests Germany has misplaced priorities:
&#039;&lt;i&gt;Federal Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel (SPD) is pushing for the construction of new coal-fired power plants in Germany.  &quot;We need eight to twelve new coal plants if we want to get off of nuclear energy,&quot; Gabriel said...&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news-adhoc.com%2Fgabriel-betont-notwendigkeit-neuer-kohlekraftwerke-idna2009031322122%2F&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The top graph suggests Germany and Spain have strange priorities. Maybe they&#8217;re right and everybody else is wrong; then again, maybe not. At least Spain has solar resources to exploit. </p>
<p>This also suggests Germany has misplaced priorities:<br />
&#8216;<i>Federal Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel (SPD) is pushing for the construction of new coal-fired power plants in Germany.  &#8220;We need eight to twelve new coal plants if we want to get off of nuclear energy,&#8221; Gabriel said&#8230;</i>&#8216;<br />
<a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news-adhoc.com%2Fgabriel-betont-notwendigkeit-neuer-kohlekraftwerke-idna2009031322122%2F&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news-adhoc.com%2Fgabriel-betont-notwendigkeit-neuer-kohlekraftwerke-idna2009031322122%2F&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8</a></p>
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		<title>By: DavidCOG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidCOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And over in the UK our &#039;leaders&#039; are intent on making solar PV unsuccessful: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/17/government-solar-energy-grant-carbon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And over in the UK our &#8216;leaders&#8217; are intent on making solar PV unsuccessful: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/17/government-solar-energy-grant-carbon" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>environment/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>mar/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>17/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>government-solar-energy-grant-carbon</a></p>
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