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	<title>Comments on: The Next 100 Days, Part 1: A second serving of beef, please</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOTE TO READERS: Wherever my post mentions beef, meat, steak or other food derived from animals, please substitute &quot;a large helping of vegetables&quot;. I&#039;m okay with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOTE TO READERS: Wherever my post mentions beef, meat, steak or other food derived from animals, please substitute &#8220;a large helping of vegetables&#8221;. I&#8217;m okay with that.</p>
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		<title>By: justus</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/30/obama-green-fdr-next-100-days/#comment-44382</link>
		<dc:creator>justus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so I feel like I&#039;m just piling on here, but wanted to point out that there were opportunities to address your question in your post. 

Make emissions visible, Reform federal subsidies, Protect Ecosystem Services - all of these would highlight the damage our industrial agriculture system does to our environment. 

Sorry that you got pelted with (by) veggies just for following through on a theme! But we would not, in fact, like a second serving of beef.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so I feel like I&#8217;m just piling on here, but wanted to point out that there were opportunities to address your question in your post. </p>
<p>Make emissions visible, Reform federal subsidies, Protect Ecosystem Services &#8211; all of these would highlight the damage our industrial agriculture system does to our environment. </p>
<p>Sorry that you got pelted with (by) veggies just for following through on a theme! But we would not, in fact, like a second serving of beef.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Telleen-Lawton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Telleen-Lawton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I agree with these comments, except perhaps the notion that anything should be precluded from being a laughing matter on the basis of its seriousness  ; ]

True, the meat industry is a bigger problem than the transportation sector for global warming (which is impressive considering how much attention cars get for their role in the problem relative to eating choices), but that also provides an upside: while many people can&#039;t realistically give up their cars or airplane trips all that much, almost every single American can voluntarily stop eating meat with perhaps even greater impact. 

What&#039;s more, the vast majority of those new vegetarians will be healthier and wealthier for it. Biggest downside? Taste. But that&#039;s probably less important over the long term than global warming, right?

But of course, even for a Hummer-driving carnivore, helping induce systematic change, such as getting Congress to pass a strong global warming bill, will be a lot more help then giving up cars or meat.

But then again, once you&#039;ve gone and done that, you&#039;ll still have the option to help stop a bit more global warming pollution at the cost of a juicy steak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I agree with these comments, except perhaps the notion that anything should be precluded from being a laughing matter on the basis of its seriousness  ; ]</p>
<p>True, the meat industry is a bigger problem than the transportation sector for global warming (which is impressive considering how much attention cars get for their role in the problem relative to eating choices), but that also provides an upside: while many people can&#8217;t realistically give up their cars or airplane trips all that much, almost every single American can voluntarily stop eating meat with perhaps even greater impact. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, the vast majority of those new vegetarians will be healthier and wealthier for it. Biggest downside? Taste. But that&#8217;s probably less important over the long term than global warming, right?</p>
<p>But of course, even for a Hummer-driving carnivore, helping induce systematic change, such as getting Congress to pass a strong global warming bill, will be a lot more help then giving up cars or meat.</p>
<p>But then again, once you&#8217;ve gone and done that, you&#8217;ll still have the option to help stop a bit more global warming pollution at the cost of a juicy steak.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/30/obama-green-fdr-next-100-days/#comment-44077</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t eat red meat.

Help save our Earth for humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t eat red meat.</p>
<p>Help save our Earth for humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: James Newberry</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/30/obama-green-fdr-next-100-days/#comment-44010</link>
		<dc:creator>James Newberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the beef? Standing, like Republicans, over their own corrupted bullshit in industrial animal processing hellholes (and Congress) ankle deep in stench, disease causing organisms (swine flu, perverse subsidies etc.), hypocracy, inhumanity, ecological (17% of AGW) and public health impoverishment. 

What should the president do next? Declare that hydrocarbon material feedstocks will no longer be perversly defined as energy resources in the US after a future target date (2030?), thereby sending a message to all businesses to get seriously moving toward sustainability and economic rejuvenation through zero net carbon contamination of the ecosphere. Reinstitute a national and urban rail transport system. What Joe says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the beef? Standing, like Republicans, over their own corrupted bullshit in industrial animal processing hellholes (and Congress) ankle deep in stench, disease causing organisms (swine flu, perverse subsidies etc.), hypocracy, inhumanity, ecological (17% of AGW) and public health impoverishment. </p>
<p>What should the president do next? Declare that hydrocarbon material feedstocks will no longer be perversly defined as energy resources in the US after a future target date (2030?), thereby sending a message to all businesses to get seriously moving toward sustainability and economic rejuvenation through zero net carbon contamination of the ecosphere. Reinstitute a national and urban rail transport system. What Joe says.</p>
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		<title>By: SecularAnimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>SecularAnimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Becker wrote: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Politics apparently is not a place for vegetarians.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Progressive Democratic Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio is a vegan.

Bill Becker wrote: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Does anybody know why beef has become such an important factor in politics?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Because the meat industry is wealthy and powerful and pays off politicians.

I recognize your &quot;P.S.&quot; was intended to be humorous, but the death-grip of the meat and industrial agriculture lobby on US farm and food policy is no more a laughing matter than the death-grip of the fossil fuel industry on energy policy.

According to a recent United Nations report, meat production is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the transport sector.  Other studies have shown that switching from a standard, meat-based American diet to a vegan diet can reduce an individual&#039;s GHG &quot;footprint&quot; as much as switching from a gas-guzzling SUV to a Prius -- at far lower cost, and with numerous health benefits as well.  

But this is rarely addressed by environmentalists when they talk about how to reduce global warming pollution, and is certainly not addressed in any of the plans now being formulated by the Obama administration or Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Becker wrote: <i>&#8220;Politics apparently is not a place for vegetarians.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Progressive Democratic Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio is a vegan.</p>
<p>Bill Becker wrote: <i>&#8220;Does anybody know why beef has become such an important factor in politics?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Because the meat industry is wealthy and powerful and pays off politicians.</p>
<p>I recognize your &#8220;P.S.&#8221; was intended to be humorous, but the death-grip of the meat and industrial agriculture lobby on US farm and food policy is no more a laughing matter than the death-grip of the fossil fuel industry on energy policy.</p>
<p>According to a recent United Nations report, meat production is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the transport sector.  Other studies have shown that switching from a standard, meat-based American diet to a vegan diet can reduce an individual&#8217;s GHG &#8220;footprint&#8221; as much as switching from a gas-guzzling SUV to a Prius &#8212; at far lower cost, and with numerous health benefits as well.  </p>
<p>But this is rarely addressed by environmentalists when they talk about how to reduce global warming pollution, and is certainly not addressed in any of the plans now being formulated by the Obama administration or Congress.</p>
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