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	<title>Comments on: Exclusive:  Have China and the U.S. been holding secret talks aimed at a climate deal this fall?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-57150</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that carbon intensity is the amount of greenhouse gas emissions per unit of GDP. That is the definition that the McKinsey Global Institute used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that carbon intensity is the amount of greenhouse gas emissions per unit of GDP. That is the definition that the McKinsey Global Institute used.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56539</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Covert --- I think carbon intensity is per capita carbon per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Covert &#8212; I think carbon intensity is per capita carbon per year.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasparilla</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56395</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasparilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very good news that this was and is being done with China (they were pushing for it) - thank god.  A little more hope here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very good news that this was and is being done with China (they were pushing for it) &#8211; thank god.  A little more hope here.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidCOG</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56288</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidCOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Boy,

Don&#039;t pay attention to anything Jeremy Clarkson says - he&#039;s an &#039;entertaining&#039; idiot.  If a car doesn&#039;t consume more than 20mpg or exceed 150mph, it&#039;s a target for his &#039;comedy&#039;.  And anyone who has an interest in the environment is an unwashed hippy that spends all day sitting on the grass, eating tofu and playing whale music.

Really, he&#039;s an idiot.  In fact, he&#039;s dangerous - he promotes the idea that it&#039;s all a big joke, consuming as much as you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Boy,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pay attention to anything Jeremy Clarkson says &#8211; he&#8217;s an &#8216;entertaining&#8217; idiot.  If a car doesn&#8217;t consume more than 20mpg or exceed 150mph, it&#8217;s a target for his &#8216;comedy&#8217;.  And anyone who has an interest in the environment is an unwashed hippy that spends all day sitting on the grass, eating tofu and playing whale music.</p>
<p>Really, he&#8217;s an idiot.  In fact, he&#8217;s dangerous &#8211; he promotes the idea that it&#8217;s all a big joke, consuming as much as you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Covert</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56283</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Covert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

What exactly does &quot;carbon intensity reductions&quot; mean. It almost sounds like what the definitin of &quot;is&quot; is. (With apologies to Clinton)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>What exactly does &#8220;carbon intensity reductions&#8221; mean. It almost sounds like what the definitin of &#8220;is&#8221; is. (With apologies to Clinton)</p>
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		<title>By: paulm</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56166</link>
		<dc:creator>paulm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average UK citizen uses 125kWh/d and US uses 250 KWh/d

(One kilowatt-hour (kWh) is the electrical energy used by leaving a 40-watt bulb on for 24 hours. )

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/01/climate-change-debate-david-mackay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average UK citizen uses 125kWh/d and US uses 250 KWh/d</p>
<p>(One kilowatt-hour (kWh) is the electrical energy used by leaving a 40-watt bulb on for 24 hours. )</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/01/climate-change-debate-david-mackay" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>commentisfree/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>may/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>01/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>climate-change-debate-david-mackay</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56147</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The W-M reduction of emissions to 20-30% less than 2005 levels amounts to a per capita reduction compared to 1990 levels of 25-35%. The EU commitment to reduce emissions to 20-30% below 1990 levels amounts to a per-capita reduction compared to 1990 levels of 24-34%. When compared to 2005 levels, the EU commitment doesn&#039;t amount to the same level of per-capita reductions because the EU has already reduced its per capita emissions significantly.

The issue is that the US has per-capita emissions that are over twice as high as those of the EU. This demands a much higher emission reduction for the US, and also highlights that the US is likely to have much more low-hanging fruit. I disagree that W-M is more aggressive than any other major nation has ever enacted into law by far. But it is a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The W-M reduction of emissions to 20-30% less than 2005 levels amounts to a per capita reduction compared to 1990 levels of 25-35%. The EU commitment to reduce emissions to 20-30% below 1990 levels amounts to a per-capita reduction compared to 1990 levels of 24-34%. When compared to 2005 levels, the EU commitment doesn&#8217;t amount to the same level of per-capita reductions because the EU has already reduced its per capita emissions significantly.</p>
<p>The issue is that the US has per-capita emissions that are over twice as high as those of the EU. This demands a much higher emission reduction for the US, and also highlights that the US is likely to have much more low-hanging fruit. I disagree that W-M is more aggressive than any other major nation has ever enacted into law by far. But it is a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56125</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Australian National University recently hosted an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/content/news/australia-china-climate-change-forum-presentations/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Australia China Climate Change Forum&lt;/a&gt; that included some senior Chinese academics Jiahua Pan and Yongsheng Zhang who discussed possible frameworks in which all countries take on emission reduction commitments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Australian National University recently hosted an <a href="http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/content/news/australia-china-climate-change-forum-presentations/" rel="nofollow">Australia China Climate Change Forum</a> that included some senior Chinese academics Jiahua Pan and Yongsheng Zhang who discussed possible frameworks in which all countries take on emission reduction commitments.</p>
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		<title>By: hapa</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56112</link>
		<dc:creator>hapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(the loony&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_clarkson/article5251469.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;review of ford&#039;s fit/insight killer&lt;/a&gt;, for reference)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(the loony&#8217;s <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_clarkson/article5251469.ece" rel="nofollow">review of ford&#8217;s fit/insight killer</a>, for reference)</p>
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		<title>By: hapa</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/19/secret-china-deal-chandler-carnegie-holdre/#comment-56102</link>
		<dc:creator>hapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(it sounds like nobody told jeremy clarkson to turn off &quot;ECON&quot; mode. we already know he&#039;s not smart enough to figure it out for himself.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(it sounds like nobody told jeremy clarkson to turn off &#8220;ECON&#8221; mode. we already know he&#8217;s not smart enough to figure it out for himself.)</p>
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