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		<title>By: Creative Greenius</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59916</link>
		<dc:creator>Creative Greenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>January 25, 2009
http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/25/eric-pooley-media-coverage-climate-economics-harvard-stenographer/
This post was important enough for Joe to republish recently and I&#039;m glad he did because the situation with the MSM has only gotten worse as so many of the best reporters, researchers, editors and writers are now out of work and no longer on the case.

Pooley&#039;s piece on the media&#039;s acquiescence and abandonment of their traditional investigative and disseminate-the-facts role should be the subject of a one hour Frontline piece on PBS.

Meanwhile I continue to quote this piece on my own blog and see daily evidence of its truth and insight as I read the morning newspapers and monitor the network and cable news channel nightly broadcasts.  The pictures are in high def but the information is fuzzy and out of focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>January 25, 2009<br />
<a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/25/eric-pooley-media-coverage-climate-economics-harvard-stenographer/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>01/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>25/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>eric-pooley-media-coverage-climate-economics-harvard-stenographer/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a><br />
This post was important enough for Joe to republish recently and I&#8217;m glad he did because the situation with the MSM has only gotten worse as so many of the best reporters, researchers, editors and writers are now out of work and no longer on the case.</p>
<p>Pooley&#8217;s piece on the media&#8217;s acquiescence and abandonment of their traditional investigative and disseminate-the-facts role should be the subject of a one hour Frontline piece on PBS.</p>
<p>Meanwhile I continue to quote this piece on my own blog and see daily evidence of its truth and insight as I read the morning newspapers and monitor the network and cable news channel nightly broadcasts.  The pictures are in high def but the information is fuzzy and out of focus.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59804</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casey Chapple --- Huh?

I don&#039;t hurl insults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey Chapple &#8212; Huh?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hurl insults.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkB</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59704</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this post was very good:

http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/02/nature-article-on-cooling-confuses-revkin-media-deniers-next-decade-may-see-rapid-warming/

I read this blog mainly for expert opinion on policy and solutions.  For science, I tend to go to RealClimate - a site put together by active climatologists, as their discussion is very detailed.  But they don&#039;t have time to debunk every piece of media spin.  The above post does this nicely, and reveals the key graph from the study in question.

I also liked the following post:

http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/26/the-green-fdr-obama-first-100-days/

I want to see more &quot;summary&quot; posts like this - how far we&#039;ve come this year in creating a sustainable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this post was very good:</p>
<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2008/05/02/nature-article-on-cooling-confuses-revkin-media-deniers-next-decade-may-see-rapid-warming/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2008/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>05/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>02/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>nature-article-on-cooling-confuses-revkin-media-deniers-next-decade-may-see-rapid-warming/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
<p>I read this blog mainly for expert opinion on policy and solutions.  For science, I tend to go to RealClimate &#8211; a site put together by active climatologists, as their discussion is very detailed.  But they don&#8217;t have time to debunk every piece of media spin.  The above post does this nicely, and reveals the key graph from the study in question.</p>
<p>I also liked the following post:</p>
<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/26/the-green-fdr-obama-first-100-days/" rel="nofollow">http://climateprogress.org/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>2009/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>04/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>26/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span>the-green-fdr-obama-first-100-days/<span style="font-size: 1px;"> </span></a></p>
<p>I want to see more &#8220;summary&#8221; posts like this &#8211; how far we&#8217;ve come this year in creating a sustainable future.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Drake Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59627</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Drake Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend that, in lieu of a book, you work to get your fine messages onto Op-Ed pages in newspapers across the country.  That is one influential place where these messages are now almost absent.

I think published commentaries would do much more to move the country to climate action, than would a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend that, in lieu of a book, you work to get your fine messages onto Op-Ed pages in newspapers across the country.  That is one influential place where these messages are now almost absent.</p>
<p>I think published commentaries would do much more to move the country to climate action, than would a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Fisher</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59583</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casey Chappelle makes an interesting point. Credibility is a function of delivery, and it is true that much climate change rhetoric is hard to swallow because of its essentialism and emotional tenor. 

I understand why this is true. It&#039;s such a large and serious problem, and it scares a lot of people here. It scares me too. But part of being a good leader in an actual crisis like this one is being non-reactive, calm and sane. 

If you ask me, people like Casey are worth reaching out to, and I think the first step is being much less shrill and partisan. The stakes are really high. The rhetoric of environmentalism has got to become a rhetoric of positive leadership that does more than preach to the choir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey Chappelle makes an interesting point. Credibility is a function of delivery, and it is true that much climate change rhetoric is hard to swallow because of its essentialism and emotional tenor. </p>
<p>I understand why this is true. It&#8217;s such a large and serious problem, and it scares a lot of people here. It scares me too. But part of being a good leader in an actual crisis like this one is being non-reactive, calm and sane. </p>
<p>If you ask me, people like Casey are worth reaching out to, and I think the first step is being much less shrill and partisan. The stakes are really high. The rhetoric of environmentalism has got to become a rhetoric of positive leadership that does more than preach to the choir.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Chapple</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59475</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey Chapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. That was me above.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59474</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Benson? If I read those things, then I, too, will feel obliged to hurl insults at those who disagree with the positions stated there? 

My complaint is that you who do so are clearly hotheads whose opinions must be regarded with deep suspicion. You cannot be taken seriously. I am looking for the serious positions, and am disinclined to accept yours since they issue from a neurotic, defensive, paranoid place. See?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Benson? If I read those things, then I, too, will feel obliged to hurl insults at those who disagree with the positions stated there? </p>
<p>My complaint is that you who do so are clearly hotheads whose opinions must be regarded with deep suspicion. You cannot be taken seriously. I am looking for the serious positions, and am disinclined to accept yours since they issue from a neurotic, defensive, paranoid place. See?</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Chapple</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59468</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey Chapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply, Pat Richards. 

But if one substitutes &quot;affirmers&quot; for &quot;deniers&quot; in your post, it reads very plausibly. And this: &quot;And yet the career denialists continue their calculated and well-funded campaigns of confusion and delay, although they know they are condemning their children and grand children to a devastated world&quot; is the worst kind of grandiose slandermongering.

The only way to arrive at the truth about anything is for the believers to present convincing arguments for their own sides, and supportable refutations of the others&#039;. Calling names and hurling slanders is for children who lack resources for existing civilly in the world. Resorting to that behavior is a de-evolution of who we are or hope to be. Were we all to do that, the world would be better without us, and so, perhaps, it will be.

Hope you weren&#039;t just heeding the master&#039;s command for the elders to deal with the trolls. Some blogs eat themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply, Pat Richards. </p>
<p>But if one substitutes &#8220;affirmers&#8221; for &#8220;deniers&#8221; in your post, it reads very plausibly. And this: &#8220;And yet the career denialists continue their calculated and well-funded campaigns of confusion and delay, although they know they are condemning their children and grand children to a devastated world&#8221; is the worst kind of grandiose slandermongering.</p>
<p>The only way to arrive at the truth about anything is for the believers to present convincing arguments for their own sides, and supportable refutations of the others&#8217;. Calling names and hurling slanders is for children who lack resources for existing civilly in the world. Resorting to that behavior is a de-evolution of who we are or hope to be. Were we all to do that, the world would be better without us, and so, perhaps, it will be.</p>
<p>Hope you weren&#8217;t just heeding the master&#8217;s command for the elders to deal with the trolls. Some blogs eat themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Dignam</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59401</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Dignam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love &#039;The Action Distraction&#039; - I always use it to show how, even if climate change were a myth, we should still act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love &#8216;The Action Distraction&#8217; &#8211; I always use it to show how, even if climate change were a myth, we should still act.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
		<link>http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/24/favorite-climate-progress-post/#comment-59317</link>
		<dc:creator>David B. Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 22:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casey Chapple --- Then you simply do not understand the science.  I suggest you inform yourself.  I suggest starting with climatologist W.F. Ruddiman&#039;s &quot;Plows, Plagues and Petroleum&quot; and continuing with climatolgist David Archer&#039;s &quot;The Long Thaw&quot;.

As for views of the future, Joe Romm&#039;s &quot;Hell and High Water&quot; and Mark Lynas&#039;s &quot;Six Degrees&quot; are both recommended.

For the history of climatology (and actually much else), &quot;The Discovery of Global Warming&quot; by Spencer Weart:

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey Chapple &#8212; Then you simply do not understand the science.  I suggest you inform yourself.  I suggest starting with climatologist W.F. Ruddiman&#8217;s &#8220;Plows, Plagues and Petroleum&#8221; and continuing with climatolgist David Archer&#8217;s &#8220;The Long Thaw&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for views of the future, Joe Romm&#8217;s &#8220;Hell and High Water&#8221; and Mark Lynas&#8217;s &#8220;Six Degrees&#8221; are both recommended.</p>
<p>For the history of climatology (and actually much else), &#8220;The Discovery of Global Warming&#8221; by Spencer Weart:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html</a></p>
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