Comments on: Memorial Day, 2029 http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:12:13 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: James Newberry http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59814 James Newberry Tue, 26 May 2009 22:24:56 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59814 A half million people were "displaced" in Bangladesh yesterday due to a cyclone. And the crops? We understand. Meanwhile, the utilities and finance houses are redefining dirty energy into clean. See how easy the solution is? Carbonic acid gas, hey its only natural. A half million people were “displaced” in Bangladesh yesterday due to a cyclone. And the crops?

We understand. Meanwhile, the utilities and finance houses are redefining dirty energy into clean. See how easy the solution is? Carbonic acid gas, hey its only natural.

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59813 David B. Benson Tue, 26 May 2009 22:21:32 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59813 Pat Richards --- Related to <i>Resource Wars</i>. Oceans almost fished out. Pat Richards — Related to Resource Wars. Oceans almost fished out.

]]> By: Ron Broberg http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59628 Ron Broberg Tue, 26 May 2009 13:59:36 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59628 It is a waste time, energy, and effot to "end our addiction" to oil. It will only earn you enemies in mainstream America. Let time and the market do its work. It is very likely that we have already reached peak oil, and if not now, then in the near future. Oil prices will inevitably rise over time. On the other hand, providing support for alternatives to keep them in the game and help mature their tech will help make the transition off of oil easier when the market is ready and as consumers individually choose to get off oil. The oil age is nearing its end. We are nowhere near prepared for it. The return on energy with ethanol is a wash. PEVs are a novelty. Hybrids are a tiny fraction of the market. Our passenger rail system is barely alive. Our freight rail system is nearly maxed out with what its carrying today and has a couple of real chokepoints. IMO, government efforts should be geared towards R&D for EVs and next gen biofuels and electric train infrastructure. It is a waste time, energy, and effot to “end our addiction” to oil. It will only earn you enemies in mainstream America. Let time and the market do its work. It is very likely that we have already reached peak oil, and if not now, then in the near future. Oil prices will inevitably rise over time.

On the other hand, providing support for alternatives to keep them in the game and help mature their tech will help make the transition off of oil easier when the market is ready and as consumers individually choose to get off oil.

The oil age is nearing its end. We are nowhere near prepared for it. The return on energy with ethanol is a wash. PEVs are a novelty. Hybrids are a tiny fraction of the market. Our passenger rail system is barely alive. Our freight rail system is nearly maxed out with what its carrying today and has a couple of real chokepoints. IMO, government efforts should be geared towards R&D for EVs and next gen biofuels and electric train infrastructure.

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59499 paulm Tue, 26 May 2009 07:13:54 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59499 High Water here and now for Brazil... 408,000 people!!! still cannot return home because of floods that began last month http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8067586.stm High Water here and now for Brazil…

408,000 people!!!
still cannot return home because of floods that began last month
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8067586.stm

]]> By: Asteroid Miner http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59481 Asteroid Miner Tue, 26 May 2009 06:22:55 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59481 "Could food shortages bring down civilization?" Food shortages have brought down dozens of civilizations over the past 10,000 years. Read books by Brian Fagan and Jared Diamond. Yes, food shortages WILL bring down our civilization if something else doesn't do it sooner. The most common mechanism is that a tiny shift in temperature causes the rain to move. Either flood or drought causes an end to agriculture. It IS happening to us right now. “Could food shortages bring down civilization?” Food shortages have brought down dozens of civilizations over the past 10,000 years. Read books by Brian Fagan and Jared Diamond. Yes, food shortages WILL bring down our civilization if something else doesn’t do it sooner. The most common mechanism is that a tiny shift in temperature causes the rain to move. Either flood or drought causes an end to agriculture. It IS happening to us right now.

]]> By: russ http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59459 russ Tue, 26 May 2009 05:18:49 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59459 How about June 12th 2017 for the exact date. Time to delete this blog RSS delivery one more time I guess. How about June 12th 2017 for the exact date.

Time to delete this blog RSS delivery one more time I guess.

]]> By: jorleh http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59439 jorleh Tue, 26 May 2009 04:15:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59439 This all will happen, if not 2030, for sure 2035. And we have no chance to avoid the catastrophe: have a look for the world politics. No alarm. Alarming is late. With all kind of idiots and deniers around the end is near. This species has deserved it. This all will happen, if not 2030, for sure 2035. And we have no chance to avoid the catastrophe: have a look for the world politics.

No alarm. Alarming is late. With all kind of idiots and deniers around the end is near. This species has deserved it.

]]> By: paulm http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59408 paulm Tue, 26 May 2009 02:31:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59408 Here is a positivemessage from the Hay in Wales. The talk was mostly about climate change and attitudes. Well worth a listen. Onward Climate Soldiers... Nicholas Stern, Anthony Giddens and Marcus Brigstocke discuss being positive about taking action on climate change http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/audio/2009/may/25/science-weekly-stern-giddens-martin-rees Here is a positivemessage from the Hay in Wales. The talk was mostly about climate change and attitudes. Well worth a listen. Onward Climate Soldiers…

Nicholas Stern, Anthony Giddens and Marcus Brigstocke discuss being positive about taking action on climate change
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ science/ blog/ audio/ 2009/ may/ 25/ science-weekly-stern-giddens-martin-rees

]]> By: Pat Richards http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59371 Pat Richards Tue, 26 May 2009 00:42:56 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59371 David Benson, Not sure what your point is. No one is claiming that human-accelerated global warming is going to wipe out all life on earth. But it is going to dramatically upset the climate patterns and other systems we've come to rely upon to keep 7 billion people alive on this planet. The biggest threat is to ourselves. Some other species of animal and plants will also die off as the change accelerates, but there have always been species dying off long before we humans came along to screw things up. The weather/enviornment will change and life in the most general sense will change with it -- after going through major die offs, struggle and painful adaptation. But our society won't be able to make it through intact, at least not for the vast majority of people. If you're OK with that, and don't feel we have any responsibilty for what we've done or any obligation to stop doing it now that we know the consequences of our actions, then there's nothing more to be said. David Benson,

Not sure what your point is. No one is claiming that human-accelerated global warming is going to wipe out all life on earth. But it is going to dramatically upset the climate patterns and other systems we’ve come to rely upon to keep 7 billion people alive on this planet. The biggest threat is to ourselves. Some other species of animal and plants will also die off as the change accelerates, but there have always been species dying off long before we humans came along to screw things up. The weather/enviornment will change and life in the most general sense will change with it — after going through major die offs, struggle and painful adaptation. But our society won’t be able to make it through intact, at least not for the vast majority of people. If you’re OK with that, and don’t feel we have any responsibilty for what we’ve done or any obligation to stop doing it now that we know the consequences of our actions, then there’s nothing more to be said.

]]> By: David B. Benson http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2029/#comment-59350 David B. Benson Mon, 25 May 2009 23:36:57 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7105#comment-59350 "Ocean Life Of Ages Past Boggle Modern Imagination With Incredible Sizes, Abundance And Distribution": http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090524170641.htm “Ocean Life Of Ages Past Boggle Modern Imagination With Incredible Sizes, Abundance And Distribution”:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/ releases/ 2009/ 05/ 090524170641.htm

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