Comments on: Breaking: NOAA puts out “El Niño Watch,” so record temperatures are coming and this will be the hottest decade on record http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:18:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Cynthia http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-158010 Cynthia Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:25:59 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-158010 Jenny, the summer sea ice-- once it's gone, will not come back. That's the problem. Once the arctic is gone, we're in big, big trouble! That's why Jim Hansen says that we can't lose the arctic and is calling for zero emissions NOW and a further negative reduction. Will all the effort that's being made to stop GW work? Who knows? It's a race between ingeniuous capabilities of man and mother nature. Jenny, the summer sea ice– once it’s gone, will not come back. That’s the problem. Once the arctic is gone, we’re in big, big trouble! That’s why Jim Hansen says that we can’t lose the arctic and is calling for zero emissions NOW and a further negative reduction. Will all the effort that’s being made to stop GW work? Who knows? It’s a race between ingeniuous capabilities of man and mother nature.

]]> By: Cynthia http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-158007 Cynthia Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:14:12 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-158007 Matt, Gail gave you over 5,000,000 links to corroborate her statement. YOU lost the debate. Foget it! Matt, Gail gave you over 5,000,000 links to corroborate her statement. YOU lost the debate. Foget it!

]]> By: John http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-97826 John Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:29:46 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-97826 The problem is simple, but nobody wants to look at it or talk about it. Too many people. We could all start driving smart cars today, and in a few years, the increased numbers of smart cars / human activity (because of exponential population growth) will have us right back where we are now. And this assumes that everyone will submit to the intolerant and tyrannical views of "progressives". What do we do? Sincerely enjoy the time you have left on earth, which by the way, won't miss us a bit when we're gone. The problem is simple, but nobody wants to look at it or talk about it. Too many people. We could all start driving smart cars today, and in a few years, the increased numbers of smart cars / human activity (because of exponential population growth) will have us right back where we are now. And this assumes that everyone will submit to the intolerant and tyrannical views of “progressives”. What do we do? Sincerely enjoy the time you have left on earth, which by the way, won’t miss us a bit when we’re gone.

]]> By: Jenny http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-97749 Jenny Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:30:17 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-97749 First let me say Thank you to all of you who work for our planet. I have a question, not sure if there is one answer for it or not, but here I go. I am your average busy mom who doesn't understand much of the tech talk on this site, I was looking to see if California was expected to see any rain this winter (2010), looks like it. I recycle and am healthy planet concious as much as I can be. Is all this recycling and changing to greener cars and such, doing any good at all for the earths temp? When should we expect to see results with respect to earth temps and ice coming back? I know we see instant results from not over loading landfills and such, but what about the big picture, our earth? Did we wait to long to start living green to make a differance? First let me say Thank you to all of you who work for our planet.
I have a question, not sure if there is one answer for it or not, but here I go.
I am your average busy mom who doesn’t understand much of the tech talk on this site, I was looking to see if California was expected to see any rain this winter (2010), looks like it.
I recycle and am healthy planet concious as much as I can be. Is all this recycling and changing to greener cars and such, doing any good at all for the earths temp?
When should we expect to see results with respect to earth temps and ice coming back?
I know we see instant results from not over loading landfills and such, but what about the big picture, our earth?
Did we wait to long to start living green to make a differance?

]]> By: Elroy Jetson http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-77918 Elroy Jetson Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:04:00 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-77918 Living in Juneau, I can say that we shared the same very warm and dry spring of those who live in SW British Columbia. However, we had just come out of our 3rd above average snowfall winter (just 12" from the record set in 06-07) and have been dying for some nice weather. I don't know about our cousins in the Vancouver area, but we have had a return to overcast, drizzle and cool weather over the last 10 days or so. I like to ski, and believe me, the snow conditions the last 3 years have been epic. "Global warming my a**!" has been our favorite expression here. Living in Juneau, I can say that we shared the same very warm and dry spring of those who live in SW British Columbia. However, we had just come out of our 3rd above average snowfall winter (just 12″ from the record set in 06-07) and have been dying for some nice weather. I don’t know about our cousins in the Vancouver area, but we have had a return to overcast, drizzle and cool weather over the last 10 days or so.
I like to ski, and believe me, the snow conditions the last 3 years have been epic. “Global warming my a**!” has been our favorite expression here.

]]> By: m http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-69861 m Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:25:42 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-69861 NOAA weights their forecast somewhat more heavily by their model (CFS), but the rest of us don't have to. This still looks like near-normal conditions; note that all the statistical models (which are generally a little better on average this far out) are still going near-normal to cold. NOAA weights their forecast somewhat more heavily by their model (CFS), but the rest of us don’t have to. This still looks like near-normal conditions; note that all the statistical models (which are generally a little better on average this far out) are still going near-normal to cold.

]]> By: Les J http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-69766 Les J Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:32:06 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-69766 Gail: Studies on habitat destruction are conflicting. In Puerto Rico, habitat destruction was followed by an <b>INCREASE</b> in diversity. This source (below) suggests that for 1 acre felled, 50 acres of previously felled land is regrowing. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/science/earth/30forest.html?_r=2&hp The IUCN Red List is the most authoritative list of <b>DOCUMENTED</b> extinctions, yet you discount this, in favor of <b>PROJECTED</b> extinctions, based on <b>models</b> using an <b>UNKNOWN</b> number of total species? I will take <b>QUANTIFIED</b> data anytime. If you have any quantifiable data, please show it. Gail: Studies on habitat destruction are conflicting. In Puerto Rico, habitat destruction was followed by an INCREASE in diversity. This source (below) suggests that for 1 acre felled, 50 acres of previously felled land is regrowing.

http://www.nytimes.com/ 2009/ 01/ 30/ science/ earth/ 30forest.html?_r=2&hp

The IUCN Red List is the most authoritative list of DOCUMENTED extinctions, yet you discount this, in favor of PROJECTED extinctions, based on models using an UNKNOWN number of total species?

I will take QUANTIFIED data anytime. If you have any quantifiable data, please show it.

]]> By: tom http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-69752 tom Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:09:58 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-69752 "This differential creates gigantic changes in the behavior of wind, which drives the weather" So why hasn't this happened? “This differential creates gigantic changes in the behavior of wind, which drives the weather”

So why hasn’t this happened?

]]> By: tom http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-69721 tom Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:26:16 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-69721 The main reason for extinctinction of species, of course, is encroachment into habitat by man. I.E.,population explosion. The only thing that climate change will do is SLOW that down, since it will kill off 40 trazillion humans( or whatver the lastest kook prediction is). No man-no encroachment. On behalf of the bengal tiger= DRIVE A COAL POWERED SUV ! The main reason for extinctinction of species, of course, is encroachment into habitat by man. I.E.,population explosion.

The only thing that climate change will do is SLOW that down, since it will kill off 40 trazillion humans( or whatver the lastest kook prediction is).
No man-no encroachment.

On behalf of the bengal tiger= DRIVE A COAL POWERED SUV !

]]> By: Gail http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/04/noaa-puts-out-el-nino-watch/#comment-69219 Gail Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:31:55 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7513#comment-69219 thanks again, Julius SS! Les J, I am aware of those lists, but they do not include the entire picture, not even close. Here is another site to noodle around for extinction information: http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0902-extinction.html The number of species that are going extinct annually is based on the known extent of habitat destruction, especially in the vanishing rain forest with its staggering rich level of biodiversity, and the number of species that are not catalogued by humans. Read up on it, if you really care. thanks again, Julius SS!

Les J, I am aware of those lists, but they do not include the entire picture, not even close. Here is another site to noodle around for extinction information:

http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0902-extinction.html

The number of species that are going extinct annually is based on the known extent of habitat destruction, especially in the vanishing rain forest with its staggering rich level of biodiversity, and the number of species that are not catalogued by humans.

Read up on it, if you really care.

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