Comments on: “We will have a bill,” Pelosi vows — several House Republicans agree http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/11/we-will-have-a-bill-pelosi-vows-waxman-markey/ The Latest on Climate Science, Solutions, and Politics Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:59:28 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: smallz http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/11/we-will-have-a-bill-pelosi-vows-waxman-markey/#comment-75466 smallz Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:46:00 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7816#comment-75466 Exciting times.... This winter, I think, will be the death of Cap and Trade if they do not pass it in August/September. Lets' cross our fingers and hope for the best whether(opps, weather) you are for or against Cap n Trade. My concern is lower quality of medical care that Obama is proposing in an effort to reduce costs. Of course government interference in regulating the cost of health services is going to lower the doctors and providers initiative to provide the best care or to even be competitive with each other. If all care costs the same no matter where you go to get it, the people providing it will not care how well they do, because they are getting lower. I know no matter what field of employment I have ever worked in, to include the medical field, the workers are only worried about money. They really do not care about the money of others. They onl;y perform and get better with time because they want more money, not because they are happy to do it. Any that was my off topic temper tantrum. Exciting times…. This winter, I think, will be the death of Cap and Trade if they do not pass it in August/September. Lets’ cross our fingers and hope for the best whether(opps, weather) you are for or against Cap n Trade. My concern is lower quality of medical care that Obama is proposing in an effort to reduce costs. Of course government interference in regulating the cost of health services is going to lower the doctors and providers initiative to provide the best care or to even be competitive with each other. If all care costs the same no matter where you go to get it, the people providing it will not care how well they do, because they are getting lower. I know no matter what field of employment I have ever worked in, to include the medical field, the workers are only worried about money. They really do not care about the money of others. They onl;y perform and get better with time because they want more money, not because they are happy to do it. Any that was my off topic temper tantrum.

]]> By: jcwinnie http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/11/we-will-have-a-bill-pelosi-vows-waxman-markey/#comment-72798 jcwinnie Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:50:03 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7816#comment-72798 A post like this should give me hope... "At last, they finally are going to do something!" Instead, it fills me with dread. While Google's supposed motto is "Do No Evil", it would seem that the Congressional motto is "Do No Good." Some of the worst that I have read so far is the idea that degradation of the atmosphere is something cooked up by "the Liberal Elite" to tax "us" more. The ecocidal nature of such critique is so poignant because of 1) the outrageous deceit and 2) the kernel of truth. The lie, of course, is denial of the horrifying evidence of destruction of life as we know it. Nearly as egregious is the kernel of truth. Cap-and-trade does seem something cooked up to provide a new revenue stream for a bankrupt (in more than one way) government. No matter whether implementation of the policy under consideration could succeed in mitigation of greenhouse gases. What is important is continuation of the political process; the show must go on. So, one side plays the God & County card; the other side plays the Gaia & Globe card. And, all the players ignore the consequences of their chicanery. There is something quite telling in the proposed Republican alternative of more nuclear, more oil drilling. "Oh, hey, this is bad? O.K., I have a solution. Let's do more of it." Those strutting upon the Washington Theater stage in these last hours before collapse of Empire exemplify a national psyche from Duck N Cover Days. For six decades we have lived with the knowledge that we have the capability to destroy life on the planet. Now our best minds are telling us: "We are destroying life on the planet." And, the response is: "So what?" "My accountant advises me that this way is better for our bottom line." Since devastation can be played out with numerous computer games, since it now is everyday entertainment; it is old hat. Just another Game Over. A post like this should give me hope… “At last, they finally are going to do something!” Instead, it fills me with dread. While Google’s supposed motto is “Do No Evil”, it would seem that the Congressional motto is “Do No Good.”

Some of the worst that I have read so far is the idea that degradation of the atmosphere is something cooked up by “the Liberal Elite” to tax “us” more. The ecocidal nature of such critique is so poignant because of 1) the outrageous deceit and 2) the kernel of truth. The lie, of course, is denial of the horrifying evidence of destruction of life as we know it.

Nearly as egregious is the kernel of truth. Cap-and-trade does seem something cooked up to provide a new revenue stream for a bankrupt (in more than one way) government. No matter whether implementation of the policy under consideration could succeed in mitigation of greenhouse gases. What is important is continuation of the political process; the show must go on. So, one side plays the God & County card; the other side plays the Gaia & Globe card. And, all the players ignore the consequences of their chicanery.

There is something quite telling in the proposed Republican alternative of more nuclear, more oil drilling. “Oh, hey, this is bad? O.K., I have a solution. Let’s do more of it.” Those strutting upon the Washington Theater stage in these last hours before collapse of Empire exemplify a national psyche from Duck N Cover Days.

For six decades we have lived with the knowledge that we have the capability to destroy life on the planet. Now our best minds are telling us: “We are destroying life on the planet.” And, the response is: “So what?” “My accountant advises me that this way is better for our bottom line.” Since devastation can be played out with numerous computer games, since it now is everyday entertainment; it is old hat. Just another Game Over.

]]> By: Richard L http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/11/we-will-have-a-bill-pelosi-vows-waxman-markey/#comment-72146 Richard L Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:05:37 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7816#comment-72146 Joe, According to this article, the bill is getting even weaker... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31211212/ Can you comment on this? Joe,

According to this article, the bill is getting even weaker…

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31211212/

Can you comment on this?

]]> By: Robert Brulle http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/11/we-will-have-a-bill-pelosi-vows-waxman-markey/#comment-71981 Robert Brulle Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:01:18 +0000 http://climateprogress.org/?p=7816#comment-71981 What are the chances in the Senate? This is going to be tougher, isn't it? Bob Brulle What are the chances in the Senate? This is going to be tougher, isn’t it?
Bob Brulle

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